Calling all experienced caponizers!

[Molpet]

Not true, I have heard of vets doing it before. Without pain management, I cannot imagine what the poor things go through.

Most capons are for food and the farmers do it themselves... same with turning bulls into steers

 

[Wolfefarmyard]

Most capons are for food and the farmers do it themselves... same with turning bulls into steers

Sure, but that doesn’t mean they need to be tortured. I mean imagine being awake and feeling every bit of a surgery.

 

[3KillerBs]

Oh my gosh! This is incredibly cruel! You operate without anesthesia???

Birds have very sensitive respiratory systems. Anesthesia kills them.

 

[Wolfefarmyard]

Birds have very sensitive respiratory systems. Anesthesia kills them.

Anesthesia is much more risky with birds, but it most definitely doesn’t kill them. It can on some occasions but it’s not a regular thing. I’ve brought birds to the vet for surgery with anesthesia and they’re more than alive and healthy.

 

[Molpet]

Sure, but that doesn’t mean they need to be tortured. I mean imagine being awake and feeling every bit of a surgery.

I guess you don't eat beef.
I can't imagine the price of capons if they went to a vet.
Unfortunately it's a fact of eating animals that sometimes they suffer and all pay the ultimate price.

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[Wolfefarmyard]

I guess you don't eat beef.
I can't imagine the price of capons if they went to a vet.
Unfortunately it's a fact of eating animals that sometimes they suffer and all pay the ultimate price.

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I don’t eat beef.

It just doesn’t seem worth it to me. It’s not fair for them to pay the price unwillingly for us. Let alone end up suffering...

I feel that it’s irresponsible to cause pain to them, after all the idea of raising your own meat is so that you know that they are treated well and humanely.

 

[Ruthster55]

I don’t eat beef.

It just doesn’t seem worth it to me. It’s not fair for them to pay the price unwillingly for us. Let alone end up suffering...

I feel that it’s irresponsible to cause pain to them, after all the idea of raising your own meat is so that you know that they are treated well and humanely.

There are people who raise breeds of chickens and try to improve that breed. Let’s say someone is raising Barred Plymouth Rocks. They only need around 1 rooster to every 10 hens. They select the rooster for vigor, standard, and meat production.

That person has a bunch of cockerels that aren’t needed in the breeding program. What do they do?Throw them in the stewpot right now? Seems a bit of a waste when those cockerels could grow a lot bigger.

Or caponize them, allow them to hang out but not reproduce, and create some good Christmas dinners several months from now?

Some breeds of chickens have declined since the early 1900s because no one has selected them. Thus, there are loads of Barred Plymouth Rocks with muddy barring, etc. I have a few of those myself LOL.

 

[Wolfefarmyard]

There are people who raise breeds of chickens and try to improve that breed. Let’s say someone is raising Barred Plymouth Rocks. They only need around 1 rooster to every 10 hens. They select the rooster for vigor, standard, and meat production.

That person has a bunch of cockerels that aren’t needed in the breeding program. What do they do?Throw them in the stewpot right now? Seems a bit of a waste when those cockerels could grow a lot bigger.

Or caponize them, allow them to hang out but not reproduce, and create some good Christmas dinners several months from now?

Some breeds of chickens have declined since the early 1900s because no one has selected them. Thus, there are loads of Barred Plymouth Rocks with muddy barring, etc. I have a few of those myself LOL.

I personally breed a few different breeds to their sop. I end up with many extra cockerels.

I either rehome some or I add them to my bachelor flock.

Again, my only issue with this topic is the suffering and pain. It just seems so messed up to me. If anyone were to neuter a dog like this everyone would be disgusted, and it would be animal abuse. I don’t see the difference.

 

[Folly's place]

Because 'traditionally' livestock, including horses and cats, were operated on without anesthesia, doesn't make it humane today, or reasonable to many of us.
I'm happy to eat any extra cockerels here without first subjecting them to abdominal surgery without any pain management at all.
Mary

 

[Ruthster55]

I personally breed a few different breeds to their sop. I end up with many extra cockerels.

I either rehome some or I add them to my bachelor flock.

Again, my only issue with this topic is the suffering and pain. It just seems so messed up to me. If anyone were to neuter a dog like this everyone would be disgusted, and it would be animal abuse. I don’t see the difference.

There aren’t enough homes for all of them.

I insist that dogs and cats around here be neutered or spayed, and I have lent funds for friends and neighbors to get them done. Yes, dogs and cats are done by a veterinarian. There is a home pickup and dropoff service which helps greatly.

Hardly any vets will do chickens.

In this general area, there is a huge problem of dog packs where intact males follow a female in heat. That can be dangerous.

I would much rather that a skilled person caponize young cockerels rather than an unskilled person attempt to work on older birds where the danger is greater.