Calling all OEGB Standard owners.

yea i see that, he does have that yellow color at the end.

i know about the hatch, we had one but the one we had , had green legs.
this one has the yellow, thats one of th ereason i figured he was an oeg.
 
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hmmm, his legs are yellow, and we got him from an auction his feathers were cut like a game cock.

i know some breeds of the game cocks, but this one i was thinking was an oegb,
should i enter him as a american game? if so what color should i put?

He's probably American game, Old english large fowl are here in the US but they're few in numbers. American games aren't recognized by the APA yet because they have so many variations (IE, families can come pea, and straight comb, yellow and white legs or green, blue, and a mixture of all depending on what is in their bloodline and how closely they're bred to breed true to that and only that etc). Not sure on the leg color standard for Large fowl old english, i know the bantams can only have white or they're impure, i would expect the large fowl to be the same.

That's not true, bbs old english bantams are supposed to have slate or black legs
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He's probably American game, Old english large fowl are here in the US but they're few in numbers. American games aren't recognized by the APA yet because they have so many variations (IE, families can come pea, and straight comb, yellow and white legs or green, blue, and a mixture of all depending on what is in their bloodline and how closely they're bred to breed true to that and only that etc). Not sure on the leg color standard for Large fowl old english, i know the bantams can only have white or they're impure, i would expect the large fowl to be the same.

That's not true, bbs old english bantams are supposed to have slate or black legs
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I mean the light varieties, such as Wheatens, Buffs, Whites, Silvers (goldens), BBreds, etc etc. Dark varieties such as blacks, Blues, and their crosses are the only ones that may have dark legs because dark birds usually have dark legs no matter what breed.

About the only varieties that aren't dark and have dark legs would be Ginger reds, Reds, black tailed reds, Quail, Mille fluer (porcelain), Red quill, Silver Quill, Silver Laced, Golden Laced, Buff Laced, and Opal. All the others are white legged for general rule, and there may be other birds too that have dark legs, but they're probably being developed and aren't yet recognized. (Even some of those aren't, like the laced varieties and Opals for sure, and the opals came from black birds). The main reason for many of these varieties possessing slate legs is due to the out-cross to other breeds.
 
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BB Red Old English do not have slate or black legs. That is a deduction they should have pink tinged legs and brilliant red/orange coming down there hackle and saddle. The bird in question looks like an american game not old english. Heres the standard for oeg and you are more than welcome to visit my website I have some show quality BB's on it. www.cockadoodlecoops.com The Old English is a very small bird an adult cock no more than 22-24 Oz an adult hen 18-20 oz

Standard for BBs

Combs,Wattles,face,earlobes -Bright Red
Beak -Light Horn
Eyes- Fiery Red
Shanks and toes- White,pink tinge

Disqualifications-White in any section of female plumage

Defects- Black or dark striping in male hackle or saddle- excessive white in earlobe,excessive white fluff at base of tail, shafting other than black in male or female tail,red or light shafting in male or female, red lacing or ticking in male sickles or breast

This is just a alittle of the standard of BBs, There is alot more defects. These are just a few

Visit the Old English Bantam website it has all your colors on it or contact me and I will tell you all that I can.
 
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Large fowl OE's not OEGB's..
On Large Fowl BB's
Legs and Toes: Lower Thighs - black
Shanks and Toes -- pinkish white

Chris
 
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Large fowl OE's not OEGB's..
On Large Fowl BB's
Legs and Toes: Lower Thighs - black
Shanks and Toes -- pinkish white

Chris

So they do have the same leg color as bantams, i figured they would.. I should really invest the 15 dollars in an APA standard lol..
 
Yep i will be getting that book.
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ok so i am still not sure.

if i put him in as an oeg, and he get dq i will ask why and they will tell me why.
but i was hopeing to not for that to happen.

if i put him in as an american game will they look at him or just DQ him?
 
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They'll look at him as a American game, but remember they aren't registered with the APA, it may be best to find some of these gamefowl meets and see if you can win a ribbon by being judged by the American Game fowl societies standards... And they will actually know about the breed for sure, and could tell you anything you wanted to know probably. Not quite sure how the AGFS's standard works though, or how they judge completely.. I haven't checked into that much as poultry showing i didn't even know about until a few years ago, until then i just bred my American games for the joy of it, and still haven't really been around showing much... Just know the standards and breed my birds as close to it as i can get.
 

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