Color and Breed Charts OEGB

[Bantams182]

Where can I find an Old English Game Bantam color and description chart? And a breeding chart that tells you what and who to breed to get each color?

 

[NatJ]

Where can I find an Old English Game Bantam color and description chart?

Unfortunately, if such a chart exists, I do not know where it is or how to find it.

The American Poultry Association has a list of what breeds and varieties they recognize:
https://amerpoultryassn.com/accepted-breeds-varieties/
You can select type "bantam" and breed "Old English Game" to get a list of just the color varieties for that breed.

There are no pictures or descriptions there, but at least it gives a list of color names. Then you can look at photos on hatchery websites, and search for images on the internet, and look for threads on this forum, and so forth.

Some of them are pretty obvious, like "black" and "white." Some are not.

Some breeders and/or hatcheries may have varieties that are not on that particular list. That means the variety is not accepted by the American Poultry Association. It might be a new variety, or one currently being developed, or it might be a variety that has been around for a long time and no-one ever went through the official process to get it accepted.

And a breeding chart that tells you what and who to breed to get each color?

If you keep the chickens sorted by color, and only breed them to their own color, that is the most reliable way to get the correct colors.

In general, mixing colors does not work well.

Looking at that list, the only ones I would plan on mixing are:
Blue with black
Blue-something with the non-blue version of the same (Blue Wheaten with Wheaten, Blue Silver Duckwing with Silver Duckwing, etc.)

Fawn Silver Duckwing with normal Silver Duckwing. (I would not mix Fawn with Blue. Choose one or the other to mix with Silver Duckwing, not both.)


"Self Blue" is caused by a different gene, so it does not count as "blue" for this purpose.


Blue in Old English Game Bantams will work the same as blue in any other chicken breed. One copy of the blue gene turns black into blue, two copies of the blue gene turns black into splash. This affects all black feathers on the chicken.

--Breeding black to black gives more blacks (no blue gene in either parent, so no blue gene in any chicks.)
--Breeding splash to splash gives more splash (two blue genes in each parent, so every chick inherits the blue gene from both parents, and that makes it splash.)
--Black x splash gives just blues (every chick gets one blue gene from the splash parent, and one not-blue gene from the black parent.)
--Black x blue gives some blacks and some blues, about equal numbers of each. (Every chick gets a not-blue gene from the black parent. The blue parent gives a blue gene to some chicks, and a not-blue gene to the other chicks.)
--Splash x blue gives some splash and some blue, about equal numbers of each. (Every chick gets a blue gene from the splash parent. The blue parent gives a blue gene to some chicks, and a not-blue gene to the other chicks.)
--Blue x Blue gives some black, some blue, some splash, with a ratio of about 1/4 black, 1/2 blue, 1/4 splash. (Each parent can give a blue or a not-blue gene to each chick, so some chicks get 2 blue genes and are splash, some get 2 not-blue genes and are black, and some get one blue gene with one not-blue gene and are actually blue.)

All of the black/blue/splash information applies to the black parts of the chickens' feathers, not to any parts that are other colors. So a Blue Wheaten chicken will have the black parts turn blue while the other parts stay their normal colors (shades of gold/brown/red). A Splash Wheaten will have the black parts turn splash, while the other parts stay their normal colors.

 

[Bantams182]

Unfortunately, if such a chart exists, I do not know where it is or how to find it.

The American Poultry Association has a list of what breeds and varieties they recognize:
https://amerpoultryassn.com/accepted-breeds-varieties/
You can select type "bantam" and breed "Old English Game" to get a list of just the color varieties for that breed.

There are no pictures or descriptions there, but at least it gives a list of color names. Then you can look at photos on hatchery websites, and search for images on the internet, and look for threads on this forum, and so forth.

Some of them are pretty obvious, like "black" and "white." Some are not.

Some breeders and/or hatcheries may have varieties that are not on that particular list. That means the variety is not accepted by the American Poultry Association. It might be a new variety, or one currently being developed, or it might be a variety that has been around for a long time and no-one ever went through the official process to get it accepted.


If you keep the chickens sorted by color, and only breed them to their own color, that is the most reliable way to get the correct colors.

In general, mixing colors does not work well.

Looking at that list, the only ones I would plan on mixing are:
Blue with black
Blue-something with the non-blue version of the same (Blue Wheaten with Wheaten, Blue Silver Duckwing with Silver Duckwing, etc.)

Fawn Silver Duckwing with normal Silver Duckwing. (I would not mix Fawn with Blue. Choose one or the other to mix with Silver Duckwing, not both.)


"Self Blue" is caused by a different gene, so it does not count as "blue" for this purpose.


Blue in Old English Game Bantams will work the same as blue in any other chicken breed. One copy of the blue gene turns black into blue, two copies of the blue gene turns black into splash. This affects all black feathers on the chicken.

--Breeding black to black gives more blacks (no blue gene in either parent, so no blue gene in any chicks.)
--Breeding splash to splash gives more splash (two blue genes in each parent, so every chick inherits the blue gene from both parents, and that makes it splash.)
--Black x splash gives just blues (every chick gets one blue gene from the splash parent, and one not-blue gene from the black parent.)
--Black x blue gives some blacks and some blues, about equal numbers of each. (Every chick gets a not-blue gene from the black parent. The blue parent gives a blue gene to some chicks, and a not-blue gene to the other chicks.)
--Splash x blue gives some splash and some blue, about equal numbers of each. (Every chick gets a blue gene from the splash parent. The blue parent gives a blue gene to some chicks, and a not-blue gene to the other chicks.)
--Blue x Blue gives some black, some blue, some splash, with a ratio of about 1/4 black, 1/2 blue, 1/4 splash. (Each parent can give a blue or a not-blue gene to each chick, so some chicks get 2 blue genes and are splash, some get 2 not-blue genes and are black, and some get one blue gene with one not-blue gene and are actually blue.)

All of the black/blue/splash information applies to the black parts of the chickens' feathers, not to any parts that are other colors. So a Blue Wheaten chicken will have the black parts turn blue while the other parts stay their normal colors (shades of gold/brown/red). A Splash Wheaten will have the black parts turn splash, while the other parts stay their normal colors.

You have a lot of knowledge, thank you for sharing it.

 

[NatJ]

You have a lot of knowledge, thank you for sharing it.

You're welcome

 

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