Can Diatomaceous Earth for Lice cause Sore Throat???

[FlyingNunFarm]

Hold onto that cattle powder because I think you will have a hard time getting more. In the future, remember that you can use any form of ivermectin for lice, mites, and large roundworms, though here in the US I think many vets will suggest a 2-8 weeks egg withdrawal.

You can probably use any liquid or powder from the garden center that contains carbaryl, permethrin, or spinosad, but you would have to figure out the correct dilution, and I would be happy to help you with that.

Spinosad is the active ingredient in Elector PSP. When I was choking on the price to get 8 oz of that I looked for the active ingredient in other options. There are quite a few but I was unsure of the math and of course had lice at the time so didn't want to risk doing it wrong.
If you did the math for another Spinosad product I'm sure there are a lot of people who would love that information!

 

[casportpony]

Spinosad is the active ingredient in Elector PSP. When I was choking on the price to get 8 oz of that I looked for the active ingredient in other options. There are quite a few but I was unsure of the math and of course had lice at the time so didn't want to risk doing it wrong.
If you did the math for another Spinosad product I'm sure there are a lot of people who would love that information!

I've done the math for the 0.5% product here in the states and the per gallon price ends up being very expensive.

Spoiler: Spinosad Math - Click to Open

Elector PSP made gallon
1 ml = 442 mg
~9 ml per gallon
9 ml Elector + 3776 ml water = 3785 ml (one gallon)
9 ml per gallon x 442 mg per ml = 3978 mg spinosad per gallon
I think that works out to a dilution of ~0.1% spinosad per gallon.

The above should be the reference when trying to make other spinosad sprays. Target amount of spinosad per one gallon is 3978 mg or 0.1%

Captain Jack's 0.5%
1 ml = 5 mg
795.6 ml per gallon
795.6 ml per gallon + 2989.4 ml water = 3785 ml one gallon
795.6 ml per gallon x 5 mg per ml = 3978 mg spinosad per one gallon

 

[Miri]

Hold onto that cattle powder because I think you will have a hard time getting more. In the future, remember that you can use any form of ivermectin for lice, mites, and large roundworms, though here in the US I think many vets will suggest a 2-8 weeks egg withdrawal.

You can probably use any liquid or powder from the garden center that contains carbaryl, permethrin, or spinosad, but you would have to figure out the correct dilution, and I would be happy to help you with that.

Thank you! I'll remember that for next time!! (Which I hope it's never, but likely it's bound to happen again at some point thanks to wild birds! )

 

[Miri]

I guess I also want to know WHY it got pulled off the shelves. There's gotta be a darn good reason, and I don't want to circumvent the system of they have a serious health or environmental reason for pulling it off the shelves. I'll have to look more into it. In any case, thank you everyone for your input, and I'll do a wait and see approach with my roo and see if his voice gets better. Thanks again!

 

[casportpony]

I guess I also want to know WHY it got pulled off the shelves. There's gotta be a darn good reason, and I don't want to circumvent the system of they have a serious health or environmental reason for pulling it off the shelves. I'll have to look more into it. In any case, thank you everyone for your input, and I'll do a wait and see approach with my roo and see if his voice gets better. Thanks again!

Contact mfg, maybe they will know. If you do find out, can you let us know?

 

[Miri]

He's crowing again!!!
Literally as the sun was coming up, I watched and HEARD my Wally (William Wallace) roo crowing again, and let me tell you, it was a glorious sound!! Such a relief that he's better and not sick with a respiratory infection. Phew!!! Apparently my husband heard him yesterday too but forgot to tell me!
Thank you to all of you for your input and suggestions.

As for why they pulled the products off the shelves, it is apparently because people are overusing antibiotics and causing antibiotic resistance, as well as insecticide resistance, while other creatures like bees are also suffering. So it is in an effort to prevent both issues, which makes sense, even though it is annoying.

 

[Wyorp Rock]

He's crowing again!!!
Literally as the sun was coming up, I watched and HEARD my Wally (William Wallace) roo crowing again, and let me tell you, it was a glorious sound!! Such a relief that he's better and not sick with a respiratory infection. Phew!!! Apparently my husband heard him yesterday too but forgot to tell me!
Thank you to all of you for your input and suggestions.

As for why they pulled the products off the shelves, it is apparently because people are overusing antibiotics and causing antibiotic resistance, as well as insecticide resistance, while other creatures like bees are also suffering. So it is in an effort to prevent both issues, which makes sense, even though it is annoying.
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Go Wally!!!

 

[FlyingNunFarm]

I do understand that...especially about antibiotics. But to not offer an alternative??? Well, an alternative that works.
I myself have been using a lot of bee products. They are very important to the environment. I wouldn't want to do anything to harm them but at the same time I can't have a coop full of bug infested chickens either.

 

[aftica86]

Did you use 'food grade' DE?