Can I get a black Maran out of this result

[Ryder]

he looks like that rooster

 

[Gray Farms]

It'll take several generations, but it can be done.

 

[Gray Farms]

Interesting. She was just a mix I hatched for the Easter hatch along. I kinda wanted to see what that cross would look like.

You actually unintentionally made sexlinks. Males from the same pairing would have been barred.

 

[The Phantom]

That’s what a few people have told me.

You actually unintentionally made sexlinks. Males from the same pairing would have been barred.

 

[DarkWater1929]

I'm sorry to have to ask... But what do you mean by single or double barred? Are you referring to a physical characteristic? Or is that a reference to their genetics?

Also, about making the sexlinks, how is that done? Is there only one combination that produces the sexlinks result?

Thank you for helping me figure this all out!!!

 

[The Moonshiner]

I'm a little confused.
You say he has a cuckoo parent and a black parent but also that he came from cackle.
If he came directly from cackle why would you think he has a black parent.
He would have two cuckoo parents if from a hatchery.

If he is indeed from a cuckoo Xs black cross then he only has one barring gene and would pass it to half his offspring but the other half would not get a barring gene and would be black.
If he is a pure cuckoo cross him with the blacks and then cross one of those cockerels to blacks and you will get 1/2 offspring being black.

 

[WVduckchick]

I'm sorry to have to ask... But what do you mean by single or double barred? Are you referring to a physical characteristic? Or is that a reference to their genetics?

Also, about making the sexlinks, how is that done? Is there only one combination that produces the sexlinks result?

Thank you for helping me figure this all out!!!

Barring is a gene. The males have either one copy or two copies. (Single or double) Females can only have one copy and they only pass it to their sons. Males give one gene to their offspring, so if they are double, they will pass on the barring, but if they are single (meaning their other gene is non-barred) the non-barred gene can get passed on.

 

[DarkWater1929]

Thank you so much! How do you tell, or can you? Is it apparent in their appearance? I conclude that barring is dominant? How odd that a female cannot get a barred gene from her mom. I wonder how those two traits are connected? You know, the smooth and wrinkly pea thing sounds so simple, until you actually start trying to apply it. If anyone knows why the female gene and the barred gene influence each other, I would love to try to understand it!!!
Thanks so very much!

 

[WVduckchick]

Do some searches for sex-linked traits and barring if you really want to dig into it, there are tons of informative threads and info out there in internet land. I take a simple approach to try to get it to make logical sense, so I sometimes get the terms mixed up, loci, locus, alleles, etc but the barring trait is located in the same place as the genes that determine gender, so they go hand in hand. Has to do with the ZZ cock and ZW hen, blah blah.

 

[The Moonshiner]

Agree with WV you can start researching into sex linked genes in chickens and get more informed and faster then having one of us trying to explain it all.
As for seeing the difference yes you can. The barring gene turns off the color which causes the white bars. If a rooster is double factored it has two genes so the second gene also turns off color so they get more of the white barring. It makes them overall look more grey then the single gene ones.
If you look at your pic posted in post 11 you'll see the difference in the look of the DF male then the SF females. A SF male would look as those hens do.