CAN I MIX THE TWO BREEDS?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Discussion in 'Pigeons and Doves' started by GOLDENSEABRIGHT, Feb 14, 2016.

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  1. GOLDENSEABRIGHT

    GOLDENSEABRIGHT Chillin' With My Peeps

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    hey, I probably know the answer but just to make sure, I have recently bought a pair of jacobins and a pair of parlors. well that day a tree fell on my coop I was gonna put my parlors in. I don't have anywhere else to put my parlors than the coop with the jacobins. will this be okay for a lil bit while I get the materials to fix my coop.
     
  2. GOLDENSEABRIGHT

    GOLDENSEABRIGHT Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I need to know like NOW
     
  3. ralph a

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    Yes its done all the time .I mix mine up just to see what i get .You wild colors shapes of feathers all around pretty birds .But you will always get some that say no you should stay true to breed . But they forget thats how we got the breeds that we have today.
     
  4. laughingdog

    laughingdog Chillin' With My Peeps

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    If you like attributes of breeds you selected for those reasons, just don't let them raise young or eat young of mixing. If you don't like features so much and want abilities of other birds get birds with attributes you want. Just don't sell mixes as lure breeds as many do, as that's how "breedist elites get their fuel about not mixing breeds n say if you want mutts get mutts..
    A pigeon is a pigeon basically, but thing is many have dedicated their lives to create maintain or improve breeds centuries to thousands of years old, so show respect at art made say some.. Much like getting art then defacing/destroying it/them making mess n then why bother getting that art in first place. I've thought of getting ferals and seeing what inside hidden genes to work on coming out.
    If you let these two breeds breed you will get interesting mixes, maybe crested air rollers or tumbler looking and acting breed/s.
     
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  5. jak2002003

    jak2002003 Overrun With Chickens

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    You can mix them.. house them together.. no problem.

    But if you don't want cross breeds you should put your selected pairs into cages to breed when you want some youngsters.

    In the main coop replace any eggs with fake ones.. otherwise you will end up with mix breed birds.. which you may like.. but you won't be able to sell them when you get too many as no one wants mix breed birds.
     
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  6. Okla-doodle-doo

    Okla-doodle-doo Chillin' With My Peeps

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    ure you can mix them. but you must realise that the offspring are just mixes. Many times I have seen people with birds that they proudly claim to be a pure breed. Its obvious thast they are not but the person they got them from passed them off as one of the two parent breeds. Seen the same thing in chickens. Unsupecting beginners end up with egg on their face and the whole hobby suffers. So sure you can do iut. But just know what you come up with and never pass them off as any thing other than crosses.
     
  7. RezChamp

    RezChamp Chillin' With My Peeps

    I've raised many different breeds of pigeons since 1982. At one point I had 370 birds of different breeds. 230 of the were homers of different strains. I bred and raised the 2010 Canadian National Champion in breed Kazan Tumbler. She was a beaut. I've had many blue ribbons(1st), many red ribbons(2nd) and quite a few green ribbons(3rd) in many breeds and many classes and colors. The very first year I raised pigeons I got Reserve Champion with a beauty yellow Old Dutch Capuchine YC(young cock), hence the name Reserve Champion Lofts and the "handle" I use on BYC. That same show also afforded me the right to bring home "3rd in Breed" with a silver Kazan Tumbler YH (hen).

    All winter all my birds stay in the 1 large coop, which is better now that I only have 100 birds.(It's still a lot of work cleaning but at least it's confined to 1 loft and the pigeon poop is in one pile instead 7. (ooooo it's good for tomatoes)).
    Pigeons are monogamous. Yes, they will breed others if they are caged during breeding/nesting season but prefer to stick the one mate. I had 1 old Bandit line cock and a ash-red Jansen hen that were mated as a 3 yr old(cock) & 2 yr old(hen). They spent 10 years in my lofts and not once bred out of their union no matter what other birds cock or hen were in the loft with them. A falcon got at Sylvia one day in December. It chased and caught her but she somehow got out of his claws made it into the coop. After 3 weeks the wound was starting to heal-up nice but she still couldn't fly properly. ...a darn mink got in the trap and finished her. Buddy(cock) died the following spring with out ever having another mate. I personally like to think his heart was broke.
    I have purposely mated different breeds. A Capuchine cock to a Fantail hen is an awesome looking bird with a "hairdo" like dad and not quite as "carriage" as mom. A Spinning Donek cock to a Flying Tippler/Birmingham Roller hen is a freakishly amazing performer. Gimpel Archangel cocks to A) red Old Dutch Capuchine hen and B)silver Kazan Tumbler hen created astounding colors in almost perfect station and carriage of the hens' breeds.
    I enjoy purebred birds but I also enoy playing with genetics in a natural way. Like breeding a Holstein bull to Hereford cow or vice-versa.
    So to answer your original question...... Sure you can house the together. They will most likely stay true to their original mate(unlike the vast majority of the women I've dated), but if one loses a mate he or she will actually fight the other pair's same sex to have a mate, so the natural drive to perpetuate one's own genetics will cause a "widowed cock" will fight the other cock or a "widow" will fight the other female. Well, I can't be sure that will happen in your loft but I've witness these behaviours every day I've raised pigeons.
    Long winded story but lots of info. just like [​IMG].
    [​IMG] I hope this helps
     
  8. laughingdog

    laughingdog Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Its really neat how so many act so different in different conditions possibly. Makes these even neater to work with.
     

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