Can we have a Silver Bielefelder thread ???

[Chickielady]

the prices are killing me ! Seriously ? Why so freaking expensive ???????????

http://www.gradeehfarms.ca/price-list.html


I have no intention of charging prices like that !
Of course you cannot get birds or eggs from Canada anyways, unless you spend even more money !
Outrageous !

 

[nicalandia]

Thanks ! The right hand has a cockerel, the left has a pullet.

So are you breeding an actual Silver Bielefelder rooster with the gold Bielefelder hens on the pics to produce more Silver Bielefelder stock? Or the Silver Barnevelder rooster over the Bielefelder hens?

 

[Chickielady]

This summer I am concentrating on breeding & hatching as many as I can, then this fall I can choose which have the best colorations & characteristics. The Silver Barnevelders are in their own pen, with Blues and Brown Barnevelders.
How I got this color to happen is a long series of matings over the last 2 years. Then it just happened.surprised me as I had stopped really 'working' hard on this project and was concentrating more on the silver Barnevelders and Silver Wheaten Sulmtalers I have here.
So it is exciting !
I am sure that once I pick out the best of the hatchlings this fall, those will be mated in order to 'seal the deal' and be sure they will breed true, so we'll see.
I do want to touch bases with anyone else working with this color.last i talked with a few people 2 years ago that were working on it...where did they go ?

 

[Chickielady]

This is the coloration I am working toward, if I can.
This is a Silver Wellsummer hen, gorgeous, right ?
Not my bird, but that is the example of the color I want in the Silver Beilefelder...so we'll see what becomes of the next matings.

 

[nicalandia]

This is the coloration I am working toward, if I can.
This is a Silver Wellsummer hen, gorgeous, right ?
Not my bird, but that is the example of the color I want in the Silver Beilefelder.

Due to the sex linked barring gene, the pattern will be different
More like the Silver Welbar(Autosexing Silver wellsummer)

Source: http://forum.backyardpoultry.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=7960029&start=15

 

[Chickielady]

Due to the sex linked barring gene, the pattern will be different
More like the Silver Welbar(Autosexing Silver wellsummer)

Source: http://forum.backyardpoultry.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=7960029&start=15

Hmmmm, that's not so bad ! Beautiful bird.
By looking at the latest chicks I have gotten (shown earlier) do you think they will be this wellbar coloration ?

My Silver Barnevelders are babies yet, and not so sure that a double laced gene would be a good idea mixed in with these, do you ?
The latest hatch:



Of course, you can get what ever you get, I mean, if I did use a double laced bird over a gold Biel hen & got a double laced silver beil, would that be ok too ??

The bird in my avatar is a rock, a mix of a few types, not a pure silver(yet) he is a work in progress, his phenotype is not a silver Barnevelder. He carries a few unseen colorations, like buff, and penciling, we are working to eliminate that.
His sister:

 

[Chickielady]

And @nicalandia .thanks for your help !
I am NOT a genetic expert !!

 

[nicalandia]

Hmmmm, that's not so bad ! Beautiful bird.
By looking at the latest chicks I have gotten (shown earlier) do you think they will be this wellbar coloration ?

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I don't see any barring on those chicks, they are wildtype silver, but I just don't see any barring

 

[Chickielady]

and in your opinion, what does that mean, that they lack the "crele" barring that the gold beils have ?
I have to breed them back yet, so maybe that will improve then.
I really like the "wild type" like the Silver Wellies, that was & is my target so in your opinion I should do what at this point ?

 

[The Moonshiner]

I saw this thread the other day and love projects like this.
There wasn't much info and now on page two and I'm still lost.
I don't know the breed but trying to follow.
I take it you have a silver duckwing type without barring now?
Curious how you got to this point exactly and where you lost the barring?
And if you are not wanting barring?
What do you have to work with now?
Any adult silvers?
If so breed your silver to your regular (gold) hens.
That will produce all silver hens and cockerels that carry gold and silver.
If your silver rooster isn't barred the pullets won't be barred either but cockerels will be single barred.
Let me know what you have to work with and where you're trying to go and maybe I can give some ideas. If you don't mind.