Can worms cause cold like symptoms?

[HEChicken]

I respectfully disagree with those who don't think Ivermectin is effective. However I have never used the paste, and the method of using the injectable solution in water is not very well known. When you have a large flock to treat, I find it the easiest, as instead of having to medicate individual birds, you can medicate all at once by putting it in the water. And from the research I've done on using THAT method, it is very effective. Certainly my experience with it was extremely positive.

 

[Sanna]

Do you have the tylan 200 injectable? If so, I recommend that you inject your sick birds with it. Dosage for adult size birds is 1/4cc injected into the breast muscle just under the skin once a day for 3 days. Dosage for bantam size birds is 1/8cc injected into the breast muscle just under the skin once a day for 3 days.
Alternate breasts each day and dont inject into the same injection site.

I ran out of Tylan 200 but I can certainly get more. I only had enough to treat everyone for 5 days. We have a vet tech (deals with cats, dogs etc) that works for the farm, we get lots of medication through her. I'm sure she could get the Tylan 50 injectable instead, if that would be better? I'll check our local feed store also to see if they have any.

 

[casportpony]

I don't know how I missed all the messages you guys had posted before my previous answer.

Like the one where you mentioned that you don't think ivermectin is effective against Capillary worms, but Fenbendazole (Safeguard/Panacur) and albendazole (Valbazen) are. Yes, you can use Safeguard and Panacur on horses. I'll have to check what we have tomorrow. I know for a fact that we have the Ivermectin but if that's not effective, I won't even bother with it.

I have no idea what the turkey poop looks like. Impossible to tell with about 2,5 feet of snow at the moment.. They're in their coop with plenty of bedding and everthing is getting mixed up. I don't remember seeing any watery poops, but then again..I haven't really inspected their poop before. I'll take a better look tomorrow, maybe if I hang out long enough I'll see one of the girls poop..

I'll read through the articles you posted a little bit later. I have hungry horses waiting.
Thank you!

I also have horses, so I know that Safeguard/Panacur, liquid or paste (fenbendazole 100mg/ml & 100mg/g), is used on horses. I rotate wormers and do a once a year Panacur Power Pac treatment - 5 day double dose

. Just thought that you might have other wormers around.

Ivermectin would be better than nothing, IMHO.

 

[casportpony]

I ran out of Tylan 200 but I can certainly get more. I only had enough to treat everyone for 5 days. We have a vet tech (deals with cats, dogs etc) that works for the farm, we get lots of medication through her. I'm sure she could get the Tylan 50 injectable instead, if that would be better? I'll check our local feed store also to see if they have any.

Tylan 50 is Tylosin 50mg/ml and Tylan 200 is Tylosin 200mg/ml, so four times as strong. Make sense? I would use the 200, but I can't comment on how much you should give in terms of mg/kg, and that is how I dose all birds - They get weighed, then their mg/kg are calculated and then they get their meds by mouth... I rarely give them as SC or IM shots. I believe that procaine penicillin is one of the few meds that should not be given orally.

 

[casportpony]

I respectfully disagree with those who don't think Ivermectin is effective. However I have never used the paste, and the method of using the injectable solution in water is not very well known. When you have a large flock to treat, I find it the easiest, as instead of having to medicate individual birds, you can medicate all at once by putting it in the water. And from the research I've done on using THAT method, it is very effective. Certainly my experience with it was extremely positive.

I haven't looked into it yet, but do you know if ivermectin is effective against capillary worms?

 

[casportpony]

So after reading through everything, Panacur would probably be my best bet?

If that's what I had, that's what I would use. However, if I wanted to wait, I would probably order some Valbazen or go to TSC and get some Safeguard for Goats.

 

[HEChicken]

I haven't looked into it yet, but do you know if ivermectin is effective against capillary worms?

Until today I'd never heard of capillary worms

so no I don't know. I found it extremely effective for roundworms (Wazine states it is only for roundworms but I did not see any noticeable reduction in their numbers after treating with it so I'm not sure its even good for that). Since I did not do a fecal, roundworms are the only type I know for sure my birds had. However I was not seeing roundworms in the poop of the turkey and he improved immensely after the treatment which makes me think he had some other kind, and the Ivermectin was effective for whatever type he had.

 

[casportpony]

Roundworms are usually what people see, I think, but that's probably because they are so big. I worry about cecal worms and capillary worms in my peafowl and turkeys, so I use fenbendazole (safeguard/panacur), but I am going to buy a bottle of Valbazen, soon.

 

[Sanna]

I also have horses, so I know that Safeguard/Panacur, liquid or paste (fenbendazole 100mg/ml & 100mg/g), is used on horses. I rotate wormers and do a once a year Panacur Power Pac treatment - 5 day double dose

. Just thought that you might have other wormers around.

Ivermectin would be better than nothing, IMHO.

We rotate wormers for our horses also, so we must have all different kinds. Ivermectin was the last one we used but I know we have used Safeguard in the past also. I'll have to go digging in our wormer boxes and see what's there. And I think I'll call the feed store to see what they have for wormers.

Tylan 50 is Tylosin 50mg/ml and Tylan 200 is Tylosin 200mg/ml, so four times as strong. Make sense? I would use the 200, but I can't comment on how much you should give in terms of mg/kg, and that is how I dose all birds - They get weighed, then their mg/kg are calculated and then they get their meds by mouth... I rarely give them as SC or IM shots. I believe that procaine penicillin is one of the few meds that should not be given orally.

I will look into getting more Tylan, whether it's the 50 or 200. And also what's the proper dosage.

I think I'll do the wormer first and if nothing changes, I'll do the Tylan again. I guess I'll have to learn how to do injections.

Can't be that hard, right? I just hate needles. lol

 

[casportpony]

You can give it as an oral drench if you don't want to give shots.