Celadon birds are total jerks? Common?

[SassShenn]

I have 16 celadons originally from Alchemist Farm hatching egg lines (had 17, but one hen went psycho and nearly killed 3 others, so she went to freezer camp already). I’m noticing that the most a-hole birds I have are from this line of celadons. They are mutilating each other constantly and never seem to sort out their pecking order, even though they are removed from all females. They’ve got more than a sq ft apiece in their pen. They’re all nearly 8 weeks old and are definitely sexually maturing - but they’re also just all mean and unpleasant little birds overall compared to my other non-celadon quail.

Is this a common thing in celadons? Or maybe just a random occurrence? I haven’t seen this extreme of aggression and general jerk-ery with my other birds from MyShire or SW game birds, even when mixed with female hens! I’m at my wits end with these guys where I doubt we will end up keeping any for their genetics simply because they’re so mean.

 

[vall]

Aggression is probably genetic, but not specific to celadons. Its unfortunate they were bred only for egg color and not temperament.

Sounds like you have a bunch of males in an isolated pen? That doesn't always work. I usually give up and start sending them to the freezer after 6-7 weeks.

 

[Nabiki]

My celadons are not particularly aggressive. I cull really aggressive ones, though.

 

[SassShenn]

My celadons are not particularly aggressive. I cull really aggressive ones, though.

We ended up culling heavily the past few days (we had Roos growing out and knew the time was coming) with the injuries that kept happening. Hopefully it was just a bad combo of birds.

 

[Ravenlover]

My celadons are not particularly aggressive. I cull really aggressive ones, though.

Would you say you have mostly culled and breed the gentle into what they are now ?

 

[Nabiki]

Would you say you have mostly culled and breed the gentle into what they are now ?

No. I have had very few jerks that I needed to cull.

 

[CovidtimeQuail]

Whites and silvers have been my problem birds. Silvers are also mostly celadons. I too don't think it's a linked trait, but from the stories others tell I'm not unique in my complaints.

May take many generations of culling the meanies to make a difference.

 

[m1chelle1]

I had the same issue with mine . But ive found that all my standard sized quail (ive had most colors, too) have been overly aggressive (fights, killing each other). I know aggression in quail is fairly common, and was ready to give up for a bit, but ive had MUCH better success with my jumbos than any others. Seem to be the only docile type ive had, personally. No issues whatsoever with aggression on them, and largest birds with the largest eggs

 

[Nabiki]

I had the same issue with mine . But ive found that all my standard sized quail (ive had most colors, too) have been overly aggressive (fights, killing each other). I know aggression in quail is fairly common, and was ready to give up for a bit, but ive had MUCH better success with my jumbos than any others. Seem to be the only docile type ive had, personally. No issues whatsoever with aggression on them, and largest birds with the largest eggs

You might try a different breeder. The birds from Southwest Gamebirds seems to be among the mellower birds I've hatched.

 

[m1chelle1]

You might try a different breeder. The birds from Southwest Gamebirds seems to be among the mellower birds I've hatched.

ive heard good things about sw gamebirds. I got most of my quails from KC quail farm. Supposed to be a good one too, but i havent had luck. The jumbos i got from a guy on ebay