Chick not responding to Corid

[jjaazzy]

update called and had the shipper set it up for next day Saturday delivery.. and I got the big bottle since I don't know what I am headed into. yikes....

 

[jjaazzy]

Been doing some research online, found several videos apparently this is a huge problem now since antibiotics are out for the most part in the meat birds in the poultry industry. I had meat birds in this bin in Feb, but I raised a healthy flock of egg layers in the bin before this one, with no problems but the weather was different, and now we are turning warmer/ with more humidity and I have not had the circulation that I normally do. (trying to keep big hens out of this area) I guess I had/made the perfect storm.
Here is an interesting video and there are a handful more you will see. There is a big conference in Denver in July to discuss this necrotic enteritis.

If you think I could add something to the milk they are drinking today or the feed they are eating today to get a jump on treatment please let me know. I have some Amoxicillin and I have Erythromycin too. Both I see mentioned in what I have been reading. Thanks all...

 

[dawg53]

Dont jump the gun and start pumping antibiotics into your birds especially if they dont need it.
You're dealing with one chick, one disease, one medicine; treat her, and only her once you get the sulfa drug.
Simply keep an eye on your other chicks for anything out of the ordinary, that is all that is needed.

 

[jjaazzy]

Ok, well I am on bird number 2 now. First one died, found a 2nd. she is pooping bloody stool. I just feel like I am standing on the tracks and the big train is coming.... they had two dripper bottles of W. milk then saw others looking for water so I opened up the water to them figured being dehydrated is not going to help me at all. Completly cleaned out a new pen, sprayed it with 10% solution of Ammonia, let it sit for a long while, then rinsed out. Hooked up a dedicated water system with probiotics powder in the water, the packets were old but I used what I had, including a small packet of electrolytes that was also old. Hung a light for warmth, will wash out food containers next with the Ammonia solution and wait. Meds should be here by 12-noon tomorrow.

While moving chicks to new home some are very light, some don't look good to me. I think this stuff moves quickly. I didn't notice anything but regular poop on the towels (from the move) that is the very good news of it.

So don't treat the whole pen?

 

[dawg53]

Sorry about your first chick. Yes, it might be best to get them started on the SMZ-TMP once it arrives. I've always had a bottle of sulmet just in case. I have a bottle and it's almost 2 years out of date and I need to get rid of it. Unfortunately the FDA practically stopped most antibiotics for livestock.
I ordered a bottle of SMZ-TMP last month just before my new chicks arrived from the hatchery. So far I havnt had any issues with cocci.

 

[jjaazzy]

Thank you, Thank you, I have literally in the short time I have been doing this 2013 raised my chicks (I hatched), hatchery chicks, breeder chicks, hatched breeder fertile eggs, by the hundreds and hundreds. You get a case here and there of cocci, sometimes it's your (my) fault (thanksgiving) sometimes you just don't know. But always able to turn it around with zero losses. I am very good at keeping people (chicks) alive and happy. I quite literally am freaking out. I pulled another that looks unhappy. The 2nd chick I have to say stopped pooping bloody. The poops are little balls and darkish (maybe blood) but no liquid blood that stains the paper towel. Maybe the milk trick worked so chick 3 is now on milk. any more folks on milk and I am going to have to run to the store for more milk and buttermilk as was suggested. All day was dedicated to this issue.. I am detailing it for the next person to see as these posts are so valuable.

 

[dawg53]

Once you get the SMZ-TMP, stop the milk/buttermilk. Just follow the directions for use on the bottle. You'll probably have to give it orally to your sickest birds if they dont drink it from a waterer.
After the tenth day and stopping the SMZ-TMP treatment, I recommend giving your chicks Pro Bios Dispersable Powder. For chicks; mix 1/4 teaspoon into their feed. After one week of the chicks eating the treated feed, add it twice a week for 2 more weeks.

 

[jjaazzy]

Thank Dawg...great directions, anxiously awaiting delivery now...tick tick...

 

[jjaazzy]

UPDATE: All is well, we are on day 6 now everyone looking and acting like chickens.. yay! For anyone coming along behind me, the solution is 10% ammonia to kill/clean on surfaces. The dollar tree sells trigger sprayers with markings 10 to 1, on the side to make this a breeze and all for a 1$
To be safe going to keep using the Corid, but reducing the amount to 1/2 teaspoon and continuing with the Sulfa product.
Thank you all

 

[jjaazzy]

Final report: All good, chickens are on probiotics now and vitamins, with an additional dripper bottle of fresh clean water as suggested in the directions.