(Chicken got a cold?) Added Info.(MS/MG,ILT,CRD,NPIP)

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The one thing you have to keep in mind is that 10 percent, it doesn't just show its ugly head when they get stressed, which then all of your birds get it if that happens, its that it is contiually deteriorating the bird that has it until you do see the symptoms.

Real important to stop the cycle if at all possible.

Victoria
 
MM is Mycoplasma Meleagridis Infection, go to this site www.thepoultrysite.com when the page comes up there will be a Menu on the left, locate Technical Information and just put your mouse on that, another window opens up, take your mouse accross to Poultry Diseases and click on that, from the List you will find many different poultry diseases, look for MM with Mycoplasmas, once you find it, click on it, and it will tell you about the disease, hope that helps to answer your question. This is a good site to save to your Favorites.

Victoria
 
I haven't had a chance to read every post on here, but I read through I think page six and I've seen link after link after link and I've yet to see a single scientific article cited - am I correct? I may have missed one, it's taken me all day to read!
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How about we instead of googling, use GOOGLE SCHOLAR. http://scholar.google.com/

http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=Mycoplasma+gallisepticum&hl=en&btnG=Search&as_sdt=1,38&as_sdtp=on


ALSO, when looking at these articles, make sure you check the credentials of the authors and the source publisher, as well as the year published. Some of these articles may be a bit above our needed reading level (I'm not interested in the genome sequence
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). Often, even just reading the abstract will be enough for us BYC'ers, if not, you can always go to your local community college library and ask them if they can help you out if there is an article you're really interested in.

Below is just a part of the information to be gained from one such abstract...
Strains of M. gallisepticum differ markedly with respect to important biological properties such as pathogenicity, infectivity, tissue tropism and transmissibility. In addition, phenotypic variation of major surface antigens occurs at high frequency, which is a probable explanation for chronic infection by M. gallisepticum despite a strong immune response. Infection with M. gallisepticum has a wide variety of clinical manifestations, but even in the absence of overt clinical signs, the economic impact may be significant. The most dramatic disease presentation of M. gallisepticum is chronic respiratory disease in meat-type birds, often as one of several aetiological agents in a multi-factorial disease complex. Transmission of M. gallisepticum in ovo from infected breeder birds to progeny is the major route of dissemination of the infection, and is the prime consideration for international trade. In most countries, control programmes for M. gallisepticum are based on maintaining commercial breeding stock free of infection. In instances where control of M. gallisepticum infection is not feasible, vaccination, especially with newly developed live M. gallisepticum vaccines, is being evaluated as an option.

AKA....
Strains can greatly differ, so we won't all see the same symptoms at the same time - it varies by the strain you've gotten ahold of...
Because of the many different strains of MG (and this goes the same for MS) birds don't usually develop immune system defense against later infections...
It is often a problem when it's present in addition to other bacterial or viral infections...
Keeping MG free breeding stock is the only known prevention...
Vaccination is being evaluated as an option. Everything I've read about the MG/MS vaccines says they're pretty much useless at this time. They ARE really working on it, but because it is such a unique disease on the microscopic level, it's been tough. Right now the vaccines are a real hit and miss. They are not recommended for the backyard flock.​
 
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Bless you WallTenters, I began with that information from 2 doctors that work as the Diagnostic lab here in Maine. Also from the Maine State Poultry Tech and the states Vet. Doing a little research, talking to others through the time, finding the same information, having sent links to the State officials and it keeps coming back as "not enough info to make a educated speculation". If there was anyway to "cure" a virus, HIV/AIDS would be cured. A virus can mimic a bacteria or bacterial infections such as these have no boundary to break down and cure.

I'm not a educated person, I am not a Veterinarian but the wild birds spread these things, if you keep your birds in under a roof, you prevent any rodent from coming into your bird area, then MAYBE you can prevent illness. One other thing, feed and bags may have rodents walking over them, and finches in the rafters of most grain storage area.

Personally I stick to what I have for knowledge from the state doctors, private Vets etc, my birds have it. More then likely they have Mareks. God only knows what else. I have found that I am not the only one, keep your birds healthy, strong and fed correctly, you'll never have a problem with them showing illness. Now, IF you show your birds, you want these exposures to different illness' because if your bird is "clean" then it won't be after it comes home from a show, possibly death and death to your other birds.

So, try what you can, I won't say things won't work, but having pointed out several "cures" most veterinarians say "Don't waist your money". I don't have the money to waste so bless your hearts if you do, hope you find some of these cures, I cannot justify it.
 
While I think the antibiotic someone on this thread was posting about is interesting... I just don't think it falls in line with my values to be treating birds all year round to control/prevent a disease that my birds may or may not keep getting from the plethora of wild birds around.

From reading the ton that I've read here, online and in books... it's so conflicting and exhausting, but all in all I think for me I've decided to practice biosecurity by not running around to shows or other flocks then heading straight home to smear the poo on your bird's wattles... quarantine birds that are new or have left to go to shows, cull any sick birds, and above all, keep your chickens happy and healthy in all other respects.

I have come to the following conclusions....

- Birds DO NOT develop immunity to MG/MS infections if they've recovered from an infection
.... recovering birds are usually unthrifty the rest of their life, so are even more prone to repeat infections by different strains

- Vaccination is not a viable, realistic option.
.... The vaccines are not reliable, and you are introducing the disease through vaccinating and will have to continue vaccinating from there on out.

- Because birds can be carriers for over a month, quarantine may not be totally effective.
.... Thankfully (?) the stress of a show or move will often trigger an outbreak in the bird.
.... Could exposing birds to high stress environment make them show if they are carrying MG/MS more effectively? Hmmmmmm..... Might be an interesting study.

- This disease does pass through eggs but eggs can be cleaned before hatching and chicks seperated.

- The only current treatment/cure is ongoing antibiotic use.
 
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You are so so incorrect. Some people take some serious security measures and practice strict bio security and still get there flocks infected by MG/MS its If your to clean you get it if your not clean enough you get it. heres I post I posted before finding this thread. https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=456531 Even though I take these measures it stilldoesnt guarantee my flock to be clean of MG/MS Who cares what the statistics arethe simple truth is there are more chicken owners with MG/MS then chicken owners without it. and the only owners who are not truly carriers are people who keep there birds locked down in air tight bio security settings where the bird never touches soil and no fmice or small animals can enter.
Reguardless of what you say or anyone says this isnt fair to the birds. to lock them up and Never let them have sunlight. what will be will always be and the best you can do is. use the MG/MS to build resistant flocks Use it on your favor so that 3rd and 4th generation chicks are born immune to it. Got to love reality.
 

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