Chicken owner charged after shooting dog.

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The great thing about the laws that protect chicken owners when they shoot predatory dogs on their own property is that these same laws also protect you and your choice to not shoot them. Everyone needs to deal with their predators in a way that is best for them. Some people are more tolerant towards roaming dogs and choose to do nothing and allow predators to get to their chickens, and others will shoot them. It's not always an easy decision to shoot a dog, it's actually pretty horrible for me, but it's just something that needs to be done to protect one's property and even one's self.

People don't shoot dogs just because the law says they can. At least *I* don't. I shoot dogs because dog owners refuse to contain their dogs and they come here to damage my property and put my own animals (all of them, not just chickens) at risk. The fact that the law says we can is our defense, not our reason. The reason is because someone else is breaking a law and allowing their animals to hurt my animals. It's not an excuse, I don't need an excuse to defend my property. It's my right.

As someone who free ranges chickens, I am not "shocked* that predators come (if they come). I am determined to give my chickens the healthiest management that I can. For me, that's free ranging them on my own property. I'm not shocked that my neighbor's dogs barrel down my field, just because my neighbor lets them out of their pens to do exactly that, knowing fully well that that's what they're up to. Rather than shocked, I'm disgusted.

With all due respect, It's easy to pass judgement on someone when you only have a few occurences. But if someone purposely let their dogs on your property to destroy your animals and cause other damage, I think you'd have a change of heart. A lof of us have neighbors who simply let their dogs out. They don't care about their neighbors and what their dogs are up to. And frankly, I really don't believe they care about the dog in question, otherwise they would protect it by containing it. Again, it's not just the chickens at risk. In addition, the fact is having your neighbor's dogs attacking your chickens isn't as offensive to you as it is to others. But something is. And when that line is crossed, I'm betting you'll take action. In the meantime, having one's chickens attacked by roaming dogs is very serious to some people. It's hurtful, it's horrifying, it's expensive, it's cruel and it's completely unnecessary - whether the chickens are cooped or free ranged.

If you choose to be more tolerant in these situations, that's the right decision for you. We all have to live with ourselves and if you don't think you could destroy animals that destroy your animals, then you shouldn't do it. But it's not wrong for others to take more action to protect their own. It's *right* for them. My neighbors allow their dogs to not only destroy my animals, but their own as well. Now that's wrong. To purposely let out animals that you know will do nothing but destroy is hateful.
 
I have read, not just this thread, but many of the dog attack threads on these pages, and I do respect your opinions. However. I still say, based on this thread and the others that I have read that SSS is pulled out WAY too fast as the solution. There was even a thread where a dog owner asked for our help on how to train his dog to not attack his neighbors chickens, because the neighborhood had a no-fence agreement. half of the posts said either "Shoot the dog" or "I would have shot your dog already so keep him tied up". And the OP was the Dog owner asking for our help.

I acknowledge that dogs cause damage, in my first post I cited 2 cases where my own animals were injured from neighbors dogs. Here's another. My neighbors dog came into my house and ate a litter of kittens while I was in the shower.

I do understand that dog cause damage. I do not expect the chicken owner to "Suck it up". I totally hold the dogs OWNER responsible for its behavior. But, just as I said in my last post, I do hope that we will truly use SSS as a last resort, and never do it in anger, but after thoughtful reflection and after pursuing all other avenues of prevention and justice.
 
That is an absolutely great point citrusdreams.

It is unnecessary.

This whole situation with Mr. Harris is unnecessary. People being bitten, dogs being injured or killed, chickens and other beloved pets being injured or killed, old folks being menaced as they do their daily constitutional, children being mauled and marked for life and no doubt a myriad other hurtful things are unnecessary. It all happens because people don't restrain or take responsibility for the actions of their own dogs. Its stupid and unnecessary.






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You must have some really rotton neighbors. They're fortunate that you value their pets more than your own. Did they replace the kittens? Did you get reimbursed for your vet bills when the horse was injured? Did they help you doctor the injured chicken? Have they since taken responsibility for their dogs and kept them in their own yards? I will not tolerate stray dogs injuring or killing my animals. A dog that is just "passing through" won't be shot. A dog exercising his instintive prey drive will see me exercise my instinct (and right) to protect.
 
Oh man! Eating a litter of kittens?! That is nasty beyond belief. I actually gagged when I read that.
 
We are starting to get too close to an argument now. Everyone take a deep breath and read the rules of this section again. I do not want to close this thread, so if folks can't restrain themselves, they should back off of it or their posts will be deleted. This is not a debate thread, period. We are following a news story here.


ellen, as one member to another, I personally do not have the money to pay vet bills or suffer other financial losses with my flock because some jerk can't keep his dog on his own property and follow a leash law. And I should not have to, either. And I won't. To quote my own husband, "Bullets are cheaper than lawsuits". It is up to me to protect the birds who cannot protect themselves. If I do not, then I would be negligent of my duties as their owner.

Let's keep this on track and discuss the story as we get more information.


****For the record, I was answering a statement a specific member made with my own take on the issue. That was not, I repeat, NOT, a rebuke from a moderator. Sorry it was taken as such.
 
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Ahem. Right. Sorry.
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horsejody do you have a possible time frame on when Mr. Harris might get back to you about posting his email?
 
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