Chickentrain's Dog Q&A

[SpotTheCat]

Qs:
How do they raise their puppies? (I've seen stuff that's like 'All of our puppies live in a state of the art heated barn' and that's a red flag). You want the puppies raised in home. Also ask about socialization. If they do puppy culture, that is great. Do they bathe the puppies? Begin potty training? Begin to condition them to dryers and brushes? Have people visit? You want a lot of human contact and a lot desensitization.

If it's not already available, ask what health testing they do- I don't know what samoyeds require, but most large breeds need hips and elbows, and some breeds need eyes, heart, thyroid, genetic testing..... find out what samoyeds should be tested for and make sure they're doing it.

READ THEIR CONTRACTS. Seriously. Make sure that there's no fine print.

Ask if they think that they have dogs that can mush, because that's what you want to do. A good breeder will be honest and if they don't think that their dogs could work like that, they won't tell you they could. Ask which parent dogs they think would be best, and wait for a litter from them.

Thank you!

 

[NatJ]

READ THEIR CONTRACTS. Seriously. Make sure that there's no fine print.

Or make sure the fine print is not something you consider a problem.

For example, "if you ever need to rehome this puppy, it must go back to the breeder" (or something like that) is fairly common in contracts with a reputable breeder. So just make sure their fine print is not a problem for you.

 

[black_cat]

Or make sure the fine print is not something you consider a problem.

For example, "if you ever need to rehome this puppy, it must go back to the breeder" (or something like that) is fairly common in contracts with a reputable breeder. So just make sure their fine print is not a problem for you.

That isn’t usually fine print, because it’s a mark of a good breeder. People aren’t going to try to hide a rehoming policy. but sometimes there’s weird stuff like “you’re not allowed to get the dog professionally groomed until it is one year old” which you don’t want
You also don’t want a 6 month neuter contract

 

[NatJ]

That isn’t usually fine print

If it's listed separately in larger letters so it's easy to read, then I agree it's not fine print.

But if it's in the same list of conditions with the other examples you gave, either they are all fine print or none of them are.

There is apparently no end to the list of things that could possibly show up in a contract, so I agree that it's important to read it all, no matter what size the print is.

 

[black_cat]

If it's listed separately in larger letters so it's easy to read, then I agree it's not fine print.

But if it's in the same list of conditions with the other examples you gave, either they are all fine print or none of them are.

There is apparently no end to the list of things that could possibly show up in a contract, so I agree that it's important to read it all, no matter what size the print is.

I didn't articulate myself well- I meant anything that's more 'hidden' from buyers, whether buried in the middle of a wall of text, or in a smaller font size, as opposed to being clearly articulated as one of the points in the contract.

 

[black_cat]

Ok yall quick tip if someone is trying to give you advice and is bragging about how they searched and searched for a line that they liked to start their breeding with, but their dogs look like this:

Don't listen to them

 

[black_cat]

Ok yall quick tip if someone is trying to give you advice and is bragging about how they searched and searched for a line that they liked to start their breeding with, but their dogs look like this:
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Don't listen to them

If someone's in dogs and you're not aware of the flaws of that dog, It's pretty safe to assume that they don't know what they're talking about

 

[chickentrains]

Ok yall quick tip if someone is trying to give you advice and is bragging about how they searched and searched for a line that they liked to start their breeding with, but their dogs look like this:
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Don't listen to them

yikes.

 

[NatJ]

Ok yall quick tip if someone is trying to give you advice and is bragging about how they searched and searched for a line that they liked to start their breeding with, but their dogs look like this:
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Don't listen to them

It depends on why they like that line of dogs.
What the dog looks like tells me nothing about its temperament, and almost nothing about its working abilites.

But yes, if they say their dogs are selected to have the correct appearance for their breed, you can check that simply by looking at the dogs.

 

[black_cat]

It depends on why they like that line of dogs.

They said for looks

What the dog looks like tells me nothing about its temperament, and almost nothing about its working abilites.

It is overweight, and she directly said that she doesn't hunt with her dogs. It does not have the look of a dog bred for obedience (most are thin and weedy, with less coat) but I suppose it's possible. However, high level obedience dogs tend to be in very good shape because they have to go over jumps. The dog is too overweight to be a serious competitor for agility, and there really isn't anything else aside from service dog work that goldens should be bred for, and usually organizations breed service dogs, not private breeders.

But yes, if they say they say their dogs are selected to have the correct appearance for their breed, you can check that simply by looking at the dogs.