chicks in shipping-- tell me not to panic

[feliciadawn]

The hatchery is Hand Me Down Farms in NM.

The Corid is a powder and it advises 1.5 tsp per gallon of water. That is not single dosing of course.

 

[Punkybrewster]

So mix at a ratio of 1.5 tsp per 1/2gal of water and use that as a drench for them 1x daily.

Another option would be to dose all of them medicated water at regular strength every couple of hours for a day to be sure their getting the med but that could be very tedious.

 

[EggSighted4Life]

My older chickens are not vaccinated for Mareks. They are from a trusted breeder (active on this forum) who does not vaccinate but who raises super healthy birds. That is why I wanted these new ones vaccinated.

Listen, their birds appear darker in color than what I expect from salmon gals. So maybe they feather slower also. Not everyone selects for good qualities, as many have issues with "culling" inferior birds. Growth/feather rate is definitely ONE of those things even if the slow feathering gene is not at play. My Wyandottes are WAY smaller this season than I think they should be.. making me question if I was sent bantams.. alas somehow time of year does also seem to effect growth rate. And no one in their right mind feeds chicks eggs everyday. All serious breeders know a balanced ration is best.. All chicks have cecal poos (extra gross and stinky) and sometimes they shed intestinal lining that can be red and can also be mistaken for blood by some folks. Not exactly as she describes it.. but not completely shady.. I really don't see anything for you to "report" thus far beyond writing a personal review...

Were there bloody poos all over the shipping box, that indicated a KNOWN coccidiosis condition? Or normal poos and the overload condition happened possibly as a side effect of shipping stress and is JUST now presenting with a bloody poo and not even anyone standing around ruffled up not eating or drinking.. in other words NO symptoms presented prior.. lets not be so quick to lynch or fellow man.. folks! Coccidia are in every chicken poo.

However your bird is definitely showing a bloody coccidiosis type poo..and I would treat ALL using the treatment dose as confirmed by eggcessive for the time frame stated on the package.. if your birds are all eating and drinking don't do extra doses.. Only administer extra dose if anyone is not actively eating and drinking. Keep in mind that any Corid will be counteracted by thiamine if it's in your vitamin supplement.. you should do one other other but not both.. and I'd go CORID if it were me.. possibly include electrolytes without B vitamins, if I were worried about dehydration...

They do look a little young.. but I'm NOT willing to go all in and call them a liar.. I've seen TONS of genetic differences..

OK please tell me (1) what concentration to make the dose, and (2) how much to give per chick. I have 20% Corid and also have an eyedropper that I have found to work well with chicks. Thanks much.

Please don't jump on every suggestion made.. as there are lots of well meaning folks with awful advice.. and I'm not directing it at this one specifically.. but I am very serious... Consider all the suggestions, file them in your "don't forget this hail Mary" folder, but stick to your determined path of treatment when possible instead of throwing all kinds of unneeded stuff into the mix. Stated dosages on the containers are both SAFE and EFFECTIVE.. when used according to directions! They don't want your birds to die anymore than you do.

So mix at a ratio of 1.5 tsp per 1/2gal of water and use that as a drench for them 1x daily.

Another option would be to dose all of them medicated water at regular strength every couple of hours for a day to be sure their getting the med but that could be very tedious.

Is it farther out of control than I realize.. because your suggestions are really good for a bird that's knocking on deaths door.. but maybe a little over the top otherwise??

Not sure why you chose Marek's vaccinated bird.. if you've dealt with it and wish not to know it;s there anymore.. fear mongered into it.. or just think that's your best option... Marek's vaccinated birds NOT welcome here to HIDE the disease and allow it to proliferate..

Very much though it count on trusting your seller to do it to the best of their ability and within the time frame specified both from mixing the serum and hatching the chick to be effective. At major hatcheries they have a stationary injection system they just hold the back of the birds neck to.. Human error is always a factor. You have no proof.. I'm a VERY suspicious person.. I'm seeing a lit of yellow flags, NO doubt.. and I might not do business with them again or suggest them to my friends.. but NOTHING report worthy.. I am considering reporting Feather Lover Farms in California to my state attorney general.. and had to threaten to do so to get a refund even after complying with all their policy AND having to file a complaint with my credit card provider for product never received... I've had a a bad episode.. and this one seems not good but maybe best to move forward.. instead of waste anymore energy on them!

The Faverolles should be fine to integrate with your other birds.. Hope they settle in a start to thrive quickly!

 

[feliciadawn]

Thank you Eggsited. Especially about the electrolytes counteracting the corid. I am afraid that some of my corid for today might be counteracted -- but luckily I also did individual does as well today. Starting tomorrow they won't have the electrolytes so we should be ok.

 

[feliciadawn]

I said on the other thread that one chick was dead this morning, and I don't have much hope for the others. All have very very bloody poo. Doing a fecal float test today.

 

[ackie]

 

[LaFleche]

I am sorry for your loss.

Although is was to be expected by the condition in which these poor chicks arrived, it sure hurts to not be able to save them all.

 

[feliciadawn]

The other 4 seem a bit perkier this afternoon, although they are mostly either hovering on the heat or hovering by the food. There is some regular poo mixed in with the red poo now. They are also sneezing -- could that be from coccidiosis or do they also have something else?

Oh and they are so yucky. Should I give them a bath when they are stronger?

 

[deidreg]

Hi there--sorry you're getting off to a tough start. If it's helpful, I got my Salmon Faverolles at 8 weeks. Here's Gigi the day I picked her up.

 

[feliciadawn]

Gigi is quite a beauty.