Child taken off plane because mother slapped her...

[dntd]

I have never though of hitting a baby in the mouth, heck I don't even hit my mouthy 13 year old(got to love teens!). The mom was flying she should have been prepared.

I used to use water as a way to calm my son( apergers...) Even thought it was warm it would shock him into stopping. I didn't know at the time I could have seeked medical(mental) help for him as he was that bad, always putting himself at great risk and making us chase him full force( that was fun 2 weeks past my due date lol). I would even take him to wash his face and hand in the washrooms in public if he started up seemed to help. Boy am I happy to be over that stage!

 

[Marshmallow Man]

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Do you realize how early a child figures out that incessant screaming allows it to get its desires met?

Here's a solution. They need a special compartment, on airplanes, for parents with screaming brats. Nothing more annoying, than having to sit for four or five hours, next to some two year old, who knows how to punch its parent's buttons, and the parent not really being able to do anything, simply because of the situation.

I always thought the same thing when I was a frequent flier. Now I use noise suppressing headphones with my MP3 player. Quite often I wish I had a limo when I go places with my 5 kids. Put the divider up and let them kill each other.

 

[redstars]

She probably got the kid all loaded up with sugar before sticking her on a plane and wonders why she won't settle down.

 

[WVchick71]

I think "Slapping" ( I assume in the face) a 13 month old is a bit much. Now....tanning her back side might have been in order! I have always approved of spanking a child! The bible confirms its successfulness in a childs up bringing. But, no never when it crosses the line to abuse. I certainly think that people should mind their own business in most cases. ( exception....abuse!) I have spanked both of my children....I have never abused them but spanked them, yes! and they are both fine. Now, back talk ...it is not something that i will tolerate from my son or daughter and they have both know this. However, it doesnt take a beating for them to learn to respect! They just need to know that it is unacceptable!

 

[noodleroo]

Slapping a child in the face is wrong. Period. I don't know about taking the child from the mom, though. I'm sure it seemed heroic at the time but really dangerous from lots of angles...

By the way, its too late to report me so I'm going to tell you what I used to do with my son when he was little and had a crying fit: I'd hold him by the ankles, turn him upside down and let him just 'hang upside down' for a minute or two. It gave him a different perspective, made it harder to scream and got more blood to the brain. I think he actually liked it and it worked... He's 26 now; I think I'm past the statute of limitations....

 

[HeatherLynn]

Its not to late to report me but I'll tell you what I do anyway and I start pretty young. When they are out of control crying and I cannot make them stop. I hold my hand up, I say we are done, and I turn my back. Now this is usually after I try to get them to calm downby distraction or trying to find out whats wrong. I started this with my son when he was probably 18 months old. It has worked for me on all 4 so far. For my really hyper one that was just awful. He would scream and bang his head when angry I got him very early occupational therapy. Worked wonders and we had the added bonus that I never had to feel the pressure to medicate because of this. I do believe a kid needs a spanking now and them but slapping across the face is not discipline its venting your anger.

One of the things that might have affected how she reacted is fear of being kicked off. I know I have read a couple articles where parents got kicked off a flight because they could not calm a child. Not everyone can go with my solution of never flying again. Its hard enough bringing a child on an airplane and if you have no skills in calming them already and then you add pressure from others on the plane to shut the kid up you might make a bad decision. I realize listening to a crying child is not fun but they are babies. They are not doing it just to make people miserable. At that age they are doing it because thats how they express themselves and people need to let up on the moms in flight when a child has a very natural reaction of fear. Don't make her feel backed into a corner like she has to do something, anything to make the noise stop because she just might and then you will be even more outraged.

I do like the idea of a special section on the plan for mothers and crying babies. They had one at a church I went to. Man I was thankful for that room.

Don't get me wrong I have no issues with a spanking and I don't care for anyone interfering with my child raising but I think the lady maybe was in over her head and needs a bit of help. I don't think a visit from CPS would be bad if they are looking to get her help to learn some parenting skills. I don't think CPS should take the child. State care is usually not in the best interest of the child. There are exceptions but just personal experience has shown me how kids stuffer in state care. Really good foster parents are much too rare and kids are lucky when they get one.

 

[rufus]

Kids cry on airplanes because their ears get messed up. Give them a piece of gum or some candy to chew on. It clears the eustachian tubes.

Hitting them serves no purpose. Some people think that beating kids is the answer to everything.

Rufus

 

[debilorrah]

No child under the age of 3 years old understands the discipline of a spanking. ANY hitting a child that young only brings pain and fear of the person inflicting it. Hitting any person of any age across the face is assault/abuse. That poor child.

 

[Whispering Winds]

It said that the husband yelled at the mother for screaming at the child, didn't it? He sounds like a piece of work too. He could have very calmly taken that baby away from the mother and done something with her.

I had five kids, from 6 to infant. When we went grocery shopping, and someone got out of line, all I did was hold up my hand and show them five fingers. That meant when we get home, you are getting five smacks. Worked like a charm. . .and I never did whip one of them for THAT. Lots of other things, but not that . . .

I feel sorry for kids today. I can't seem to go anywhere that someone is not verbally abusing their kids, and the language is just beyond belief . . .haven't seen anyone beat their kids, but that is their saving grace, because that I would not tolerate. I watched a guy at a filling station this summer scream at his two kids he was pulling in a wagon, and I could tell by the way that little girl acted, she was expecting a crack across the head . . .so when he was walking down the street with them, I followed him in my car a ways. He was so shook up watching me watch him, I think I saved that little girl a good beating. He knew I knew what he was, and he was going to be careful for the rest of that day at least. I know the experts say you are just suppose to intervene and start a conversation with the parent, but what i would really like to do is not for this forum, and I would have to be bailed out.

 

[ponygirl454]

what i dot see is how any of you think hitting kids at all, in any wya, is acceptable. i dont care what the bible, or anything else, says. its not okay!