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There are some things on the "no-no" list that is a crock.
Raw green potato peels --
I seen chickens eat raw green potato peels and it didn't harm them. My chickens get all my potato peels green or other wise and there still living.

Citrus --
I and others I know feed citrus to chickens there not dead in fact most electrolytes have a citrus based acid in them...

It says on that list that Beans should be well-cooked only, never dry and includes green beans.
I feed raw green bean all the time in the summer when the garden is in. There is a lot of all grain feeds out there that has MUNG BEANS in it as far as that go's my "scratch grain" has MUNG BEANS in it and my chickens are just fine..

Chris

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It was written as a guideline, not "rules"...do what you want. I was trying to be helpful - sorry if I offended you and your chicken-feeding practices.

What makes you think you offended me? You didn't offended, It would take a lot more to offended me than one little post.. I was just stating that not all that is on that list is true...

Chris
 
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WHEW! Ok, good!
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That's what I hate about trying to read tone in someones typing!! It was the CAPS that made it sound like you were telling me I didn't know what the heck I was talking about, or that you might have been offended that I was posting something that implied that what you were feeding your birds was wrong. Glad we got that all cleared up!!
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WHEW! Ok, good!
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That's what I hate about trying to read tone in someones typing!! It was the CAPS that made it sound like you were telling me I didn't know what the heck I was talking about, or that you might have been offended that I was posting something that implied that what you were feeding your birds was wrong. Glad we got that all cleared up!!
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I love hearing from folks that are trained in these areas. Can't say I follow all the advice to the letter but I appreciate being able to make decisions when I have lots of information to draw on.
 
Ladies and gents, thank you all! I shan't give the chocolate cake to my girls, simply because it could be bad and that's enough for me. I do plan to give them all the grasshoppers that will be invading my flower garden in a few months. I'm already planning how I will knock them into a pan and then clap the lid on said pan. My mother-in-law used to pick those little (not so little, actually) heathens off and step on them. I hate to hear them crunch, so I can't do that. I think my girls will just love to dispose of them for me. Thanks again, you are all great!
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Chocolate isn't toxic the same way that say, antifreeze is toxic. It takes a certain "dose" of chocolate to be considered "toxic", and the better quality the chocolate is, the less it takes to be deadly. No, a bite of chocolate (like milk chocolate, for example) every now and then isn't going to kill your dog, but chocolate even in small amounts can cause nasty diarrhea, pancreatitis, and general malaise in your pets and is just not a good idea.
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eta: (I am a licensed veterinary technician, and work in an emergency clinic where we do see the results of such feedings).

I'm not sure why you didn't also quote this portion of my post since it makes essentially the same point you make. I've bred dogs for over 30 years, have always given them the occasional [read that to mean rare] bit of chocolate cake or cookie & have never experienced the problems you cite [although I must admit I'm not sure what "general malaise" looks like.



It is absolutely not true that chocolate is extremely toxic to animals. Some types of chocolate, those high in cocoa concentration, can be toxic to dogs in sufficient quantity.​
 
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Chocolate isn't toxic the same way that say, antifreeze is toxic. It takes a certain "dose" of chocolate to be considered "toxic", and the better quality the chocolate is, the less it takes to be deadly. No, a bite of chocolate (like milk chocolate, for example) every now and then isn't going to kill your dog, but chocolate even in small amounts can cause nasty diarrhea, pancreatitis, and general malaise in your pets and is just not a good idea.
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eta: (I am a licensed veterinary technician, and work in an emergency clinic where we do see the results of such feedings).

I'm not sure why you didn't also quote this portion of my post since it makes essentially the same point you make. I've bred dogs for over 30 years, have always given them the occasional [read that to mean rare] bit of chocolate cake or cookie & have never experienced the problems you cite [although I must admit I'm not sure what "general malaise" looks like.



It is absolutely not true that chocolate is extremely toxic to animals. Some types of chocolate, those high in cocoa concentration, can be toxic to dogs in sufficient quantity.
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"general malaise" = makes them feel like poo.
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The point I was trying to make with only quoting the "ps" part was to say that just because something doesn't kill your pet doesn't mean it isn't toxic. I realize you ballparked the same point as well, I just used the ps part because that's the last thing that people read, so that's what sticks in the mind.
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I have to agree with NYREDS. A little is OK.

A 44 pound dog would have to eat 1 pound of milk chocolate or a 1 oz. bar of the bakers chocolate to get sick..

Theobromine is also found in Cola Drinks, Acai Berries, Tea and energy drinks.
Theorbromine is also known as Riddospas, Riddovydrin, Santheose, Seominal, Theobrominum, Theoguardenal, and Theominal.
Theobromine is a naturally occurring substance in over sixty species of plant, and is most concentrated in the cocoa bean.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theobromine_poisoning
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/theo.html

Chris
 
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