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[RareBreedFancier]

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Just wanted to point out a small flaw in your logic and figures.

Your talking about 5000 people buying pairs? That's 10,000 birds! How many breeding birds are in the USA?

Assuming a hen could lay 250 eggs in a season which is rather unlikely you'd need 40 hens to lay those eggs. That's assuming ALL of them hatched and were sold.

At a more realistic production rate of 150 eggs You'd need nearly 70 hens assuming all hatched and were sold.

Obviously the importers will want to keep stock for themselves too and your never going to get 100% eggs hatched. There simply wouldn't be that many birds to go around.

As for them asking $3000 well the solution is obvious, if you can't afford it, wait. Prices will drop, guaranteed.

 

[HenThymes]

If everyone would like to know what the eggs/birds from Harmony Hills are actually going to be selling for please just visit their site. It will save everyone allot of guessing.

http://www.orpingtonimports.com/?page_id=21

 

[HenThymes]

Double post sorry...

 

[justuschickens59]

I notice that the prices have changed several times over the last couple of months. Wonder which prices are correct?

 

[ChooksChick]

I'm just really delighted there are more than one bloodline of these in the States and hope that we'll all get a chance to hug a big brown Orp soon!

http://www.heirloomorpingtons.com/about.html

I'm waiting for Marc to have his for sale. He's got a Sportsman fired up and I can't wait for pics of the fuzzy butts!

 

[Groundhighchickenguy]

Hey, I'm just saying I wouldn't charge them kind of prices. And like I said before, to each their own. I understand the risks involved but the red tape has been broke.

 

[Msbear]

What I would like to know is...

first of all, are these pairs and trios that are auctioning off now already in the states? some of the pairs and trios seem to be going rather cheap considering the huge cost of importing.

second of all, how are they selling eggs from birds that are not even here yet and how can they guarantee that they will be available in just a couple of weeks? When a bird is that stressed, it may not lay for a good long time while the bird recooperates.

 

[ChooksChick]

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I wonder about these things, as well. I think that's why Marc (Heirloom Orpingtons) has been so careful with his and isn't selling yet. I don't think he intends to sell eggs, either. I'm not certain, but I think he's working on juveniles as sales stock, only.

 

[jimstarkey]

If anyone really believes that this is anything other than a really well thought out sales strategy, then they are blind. These people know how much these birds are worth and they are trying to maximize their profits before the bubble bursts. And, that's fine. Business is business but, sometimes business can be a little gray.

How do we know these hatching eggs aren't coming directly from the UK in throves avoiding having to import many many birds all at one time. The hatching eggs which come from the UK could be shipped to a broker here in the states who then ships them to buyers around the country. The hatchability will be terrible causing a further delay in anyone else having breeder age chocs and making a huge profit in the mean time. This sounds absolutely terrible but, what if? I would absolutely be contacting DEFRA and the US agencies to see how many birds have been brought in and keep track of how many eggs were being sent out. That should be obvious if only a trio has been imported and hundreds of eggs were going out.

We already see they are starting with splits. Why do you think that is? Well, it's to increase their selling window.

They have ebay ads, featherauctions ads, people on here chatting up the birds. We are being hit hard with an advertising campaign and everyone is forking out the money. What I think caught them off guard is other's getting the chocs in at the same time. Now, the race is on and they are already playing a bit dirty. Negative remarks about other chocolate orpingtons and their uncertain bloodlines and the probability of buying illegally imported stock which may result in prosecution.

No one has ever been prosecuted in this country for buying illegally imported chickens. All the while they are namedropping a man that has been dead for years and cannot be available to support or deny anything that is being said about him and his so called relation to Cheshire Chicks.

My thoughts may not be true. Im just saying anyone that is investing in these hatching eggs better be on top of what their getting.

 

[HenThymes]

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