Clunkers, where did the jobs go.

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I'm sorry. I must have missed something. Last I hears GM shut down some dealerships as part of their streamlining effort to make their company more profitable. Uncle Sam had nothing to do with it. They loaned GM and Chrysler money. They didn't take over the day to day operations of those companies. Moe right wing rhetoric. I wish the party of NO would put as much effort in to saving this country as they are putting in to trying to destroy it to make Obama look bad.

Uncle Sam had nothing to do with it!? Har de har har har! That is so funny! Har de har har har! Hoo-boy! I'm gettin a side sticker!
 
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I'm sorry. I must have missed something. Last I hears GM shut down some dealerships as part of their streamlining effort to make their company more profitable. Uncle Sam had nothing to do with it. They loaned GM and Chrysler money. They didn't take over the day to day operations of those companies. Moe right wing rhetoric. I wish the party of NO would put as much effort in to saving this country as they are putting in to trying to destroy it to make Obama look bad.

Uncle Sam had nothing to do with it!? Har de har har har! That is so funny! Har de har har har! Hoo-boy! I'm gettin a side sticker!

lol. yeah, they had nothing to do with the day to day operations of the company... just the payroll, and which CEO's and VP's should lose their jobs....

Technically, even the governments own "watchdog" groups cannot locate most of the billions used to finance this bail out. Just where DID that money go to?
 
Hoo - boy! Still roaring with laughter!
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Uncle Sam had nothing to do with it!? Har de har har har! That is so funny! Har de har har har! Hoo-boy! I'm gettin a side sticker!

lol. yeah, they had nothing to do with the day to day operations of the company... just the payroll, and which CEO's and VP's should lose their jobs....

Technically, even the governments own "watchdog" groups cannot locate most of the billions used to finance this bail out. Just where DID that money go to?

No worry where it went, Obama Robinhood will Rob some more hard working RICH people, to get more.
 
I heard that Chrysler and GM were forced to "close" some of the dealerships that sold their vehicles. I know our choices are limited as to where we can now take our Dodge that is under a "Chrysler" warranty. It didn't have anything to do with "streamlining", this was an option that the government made them take.

I have several friends that work for GM here in Lansing. They are a little ticked off about how this "Clunker" program worked. They agree that the program should not have been used on Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, etc. This was a "program" that was going to "benefit" Americans and the American economy, not to be shared with foreign companies. They are also concerned with where the money GM is going to get to front the reimbursements to the dealerships until (or if) the government comes through.

Was this a good idea? Sure it could have been, but is it going to be something that will help the economy? No, because you can only rob Peter to pay Paul for so long. Someone is going to have to pay back all the money that was used on this program, and that somebody is going to be all of us. There is no such thing as a free ride. I am shocked as to how many people cannot see, it doesn't matter who you voted for or what political stance you take, what matters is basic math.

Look at all the quick and easy mortgages that was available awhile back. The ones that ended with the shocker of the increase in foreclosures. To me, it appears as the only boost our economy is going to feel is an increase in repos. Then what are these people going to do? You won't be able to find a decent "clunker" for a few thousand dollars - I have already seen the increase in the costs of "clunkers" in our area. We're looking for a first car for our teenage son and people are wanting a small fortune.

As far as the government and health care reform - take a look at Medicare and Medicaid. These programs are ran by the government and everyone knows how well they run. Again, this is not about where you stand politically, but look at how poorly for years these programs have been and now they want to "take over" the health care systems? Honestly, there is not point in complaining about it though, it will pass and our country will be even further in the hole. I live in Lansing, and I know that there are programs throughout Michigan's counties for health care assistance. What about the local health departments, these are all on a sliding scale - why do we really need any more government control?


Again, none of this has anything to do with your political stance, but look at it from a personal angle. When you balance your check book at the end of the month, are you able to end it in the red as our government is doing or do you try to keep it in the black? Are you living paycheck to paycheck like most of us do? Are you going to be able to afford paying for your neighbor's $4500 car credit they received, not to mention the entire country's? Are you going to be able to cover everyone's health care, including your own? The government is a not for profit entity, so their money comes from somewhere and that is from Americans in the form of TAXES.
 
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Have you tried getting a car loan lately? The people that were able to get the loans can afford them. The mortgage problems were caused by sub prime loans. I will assume you know what that means.

Keeping the program to just US brand cars would not have been real fair to the foreign dealers owned by US citizens.

Ask your grandparents if they would give up their Medi-Care. The only thing wrong with that program is that Bush tried to run it bankrupt with his Medi-care part B scam. The little provision he had his congress put in that makes it so big pharm can charge whatever they want and the gov can't negotiate for a fair price. The Bush congress passed that one in the middle of the night. The people that are objecting to the health overhaul are either misinformed or suffering from "I got mine sucks to be you" syndrome.
 
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Time we start thinking about the good old USA. Their lose if they want to support foreign companys.

Bad enough we bail out US car company(which was a bad idea) Now we need to help foreign company, because some dealer are making money by sell there cars!!! DONT think so.

Where do the profit go, dont give a darn who assemble.

If we stop buying foreign goods, BUY AMERICA MADE, I try my best, right down to my work boots. Company like GM would stop moving jobs oversea, if we stop buying cars made outside of the US. That goes for those made my our northern and southern neighbors.
 
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