Coccidiosis? Or something else?

[HappyClucker7]

I would investigate and look at vents. There may have been some injury or pecking going on, but it is a lot of blood.

I know, it certainly is a lot of blood. I'll check for injuries and let you know if I find anything.

 

[HiEverybirdy]

Check the little feathered feet of the D'uccles. When we have a bloodbath under the roost, it's usually a broken foot feather. It usually clears up so fast it's hard to even determine whose foot dropped all that blood. Only once in a blue moon have I dabbed with corn starch as a styptic.

Those are good questions about the coccidiosis! There are all kinds of all the diseases, and the cocci in your soil is probably different than the cocci where they lived before. Their immune systems have to adjust to the new bacteria at a time when their immune systems are shaky from having their worlds uprooted. Moving can be really hard on chickens, so it's not surprising you're seeing some funky things.

The cocci in our soil doesn't seem to cause much bloody diarrhea, but I start treating as soon as a chick of a certain age puffs up and acts antisocial. Conversely, I don't necessarily treat at the first sign of blood; sometimes they shed a lot of intestine for whatever reason. But yours may be one of those situations where Corid can't hurt!

And yeah--seems like Corid is the go-to for pretty much all coccidiosis. It's low-risk and balances their systems so they're strong enough to fight a normal level of cocci on their own in the future. Just be sure to refresh the Corid water daily, and don't give vitamin supplements while treating, as those can counteract the Corid.

 

[HappyClucker7]

Check the little feathered feet of the D'uccles. When we have a bloodbath under the roost, it's usually a broken foot feather. It usually clears up so fast it's hard to even determine whose foot dropped all that blood. Only once in a blue moon have I dabbed with corn starch as a styptic.

Those are good questions about the coccidiosis! There are all kinds of all the diseases, and the cocci in your soil is probably different than the cocci where they lived before. Their immune systems have to adjust to the new bacteria at a time when their immune systems are shaky from having their worlds uprooted. Moving can be really hard on chickens, so it's not surprising you're seeing some funky things.

The cocci in our soil doesn't seem to cause much bloody diarrhea, but I start treating as soon as a chick of a certain age puffs up and acts antisocial. Conversely, I don't necessarily treat at the first sign of blood; sometimes they shed a lot of intestine for whatever reason. But yours may be one of those situations where Corid can't hurt!

And yeah--seems like Corid is the go-to for pretty much all coccidiosis. It's low-risk and balances their systems so they're strong enough to fight a normal level of cocci on their own in the future. Just be sure to refresh the Corid water daily, and don't give vitamin supplements while treating, as those can counteract the Corid.

Thanks for this information! I'll check the D'Uccles' feet.
I was also thinking that the move might have caused this. Do you think I should wait a couple days, to see if the blood goes away? Or just go and get the Corid right away? (This is if it's not an injury of course!)

 

[HiEverybirdy]

Thanks for this information! I'll check the D'Uccles' feet.
I was also thinking that the move might have caused this. Do you think I should wait a couple days, to see if the blood goes away? Or just go and get the Corid right away? (This is if it's not an injury of course!)

It's a go-with-your-gut situation, but based on what you've posted + the fact Corid is low-risk, inexpensive, and easy to administer, while coccidiosis can be quick and deadly once it gets rolling, I'd probably treat.

Edited to say that, either way, yes--totally go get some Corid! It lasts a long time and can be a literal lifesaver. Sometimes coccidiosis sneaks up, and you never want to watch your chickens be mortally ill while you wait for the feed store to open up after the weekend

 

[HappyClucker7]

It's a go-with-your-gut situation, but based on what you've posted + the fact Corid is low-risk, inexpensive, and easy to administer, while coccidiosis can be quick and deadly once it gets rolling, I'd probably treat.

Alright, I'll do that! How soon after the treatment do you think it would be okay for my main flock to go near the new chickens?

 

[HiEverybirdy]

Good question: you have them in adjacent coops, so quarantine for airborne stuff is essentially over, but as long as they're in good, safe housing, I wouldn't even think about integrating until after the Corid treatment and the blood stops appearing.

It's yet another good question as to whether to treat your existing flock. If they're young, too, or live on a small amount of ground (instead having fresh space to range where they can more easily self-adjust their microbiomes), then treat the existing flock when you treat the new littles. You're probably tracking some coccidiosis poop from run to run on the regular, so they're getting exposed to a bigger load of cocci and may or may not be prepared for it. You can give the same dose or a smaller, preventative dose; whatever floats your boat.

Continued good luck!

 

[HappyClucker7]

Good question: you have them in adjacent coops, so quarantine for airborne stuff is essentially over, but as long as they're in good, safe housing, I wouldn't even think about integrating until after the Corid treatment and the blood stops appearing.

It's yet another good question as to whether to treat your existing flock. If they're young, too, or live on a small amount of ground (instead having fresh space to range where they can more easily self-adjust their microbiomes), then treat the existing flock when you treat the new littles. You're probably tracking some coccidiosis poop from run to run on the regular, so they're getting exposed to a bigger load of cocci and may or may not be prepared for it. You can give the same dose or a smaller, preventative dose; whatever floats your boat.

Continued good luck!

Alright, so I got the Corid. I'll give it to them tomorrow.

The housing is completely safe, so they're fine in there for however long they need to be in there. Actually, the D'Uccles will live in there permanently, and two bantams from my main flock will move into that coop.

My existing flock consists of two 5 year old hens, and four 1 year olds. They live in an enclosed run, but they get to roam the garden under supervision.
I should also mention that the coop the littles are in is too small for me to actually walk in to (height wise), so I'm not stepping into any poop.

How much should I give as a preventative dose?

 

[Eggcessive]

I would give the severe outbreak dose for 5-7 days. Then if want, you may give the preventative dose for an additional 5-7 days. Here is a chart with dosages:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url...ved=0CAgQjRxqFwoTCJC5gJHcnfICFQAAAAAdAAAAABAD

 

[HappyClucker7]

I would give the severe outbreak dose for 5-7 days. Then if want, you may give the preventative dose for an additional 5-7 days. Here is a chart with dosages:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/corid-dosage-no-more-confusion.418035/page-5&psig=AOvVaw1TAeJbhmvGagW0kzz-GP4b&ust=1628384768530000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAgQjRxqFwoTCJC5gJHcnfICFQAAAAAdAAAAABAD

Okay, will do.
Thank you both for your help!

 

[HappyClucker7]

So, today was the 2nd day of treatment, and I saw absolutely no blood at all today. Is it possible for Corid to work that fast?