Coccidiosis

[Eggcessive]

The Corid website actually says that treatment is 5ml per gallon for the liquid and 3/4 teaspoon per galllon for the powder, but like many here, I guess I read that the liquid is 9.5ml/gallon, so that is what I have been using.

Can anyone show me where it says that the dose is 1/2 for powder or 2 for liquid?

-Kathy

I don't like to get into contests about dosages. I went to the Corid website and found nothing about chickens or chicken dosages. My dosage comes from quoting other knowledgable people (such as Dawg53 and others) on BYC. This medication is used off-label like many others we use for our chickens. If you have info to share from the Corid manufacturer, by all means, print it here, and I will follow their directions. There just seem to be too many people quoting the dosages that seem too weak to me. The problem with all of these meds is that the drug companies don't put the dosages out there, and the educational sites on the web don't talk about it either.

 

[casportpony]

I'm on the stupid iPad right now, so when I get to a proper computer I will post the link.

-Kathy

 

[Fred's Hens]

USDA here: http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/animaldrugsatfda/details.cfm?dn=013-149

U Conn Coop Extension Unit here: http://web.uconn.edu/poultry/poultrypages/diseasefactsheet.html

 

[Eggcessive]

USDA here: http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/animaldrugsatfda/details.cfm?dn=013-149

U Conn Coop Extension Unit here: http://web.uconn.edu/poultry/poultrypages/diseasefactsheet.html

Now I'm really confused after seeing the second link...I can get my calculator out to figure the liquid, but the powder would be 2 teaspoonsful, and I have only heard to use 1/2 tsp per gallon. 1/3 of an ounce is approximately 10cc or 2 tsp. Help Fred!
The liquid is 9.6 ml to a gallon or 4 liters to be exact to give a 9.6 % solution, which is close enough to 2 tsp.

 

[ten chicks]

Sorry if my #36 confused anyone... I do know how to convert ml to teaspoon, grams to ounces, etc. My issue is that people keep saying that the dose for Corid is 1/2 teaspoon per gallon for the powder and 2 teaspoons per gallon for the liquid, but the Corid website says for treatment it's 3/4 teaspooorder gallon for the powder and 5ml (1 teaspoon) per gallon for the liquid.

I would just like to know why people think it's different than the mfg's recommended amount. Does anyone have a source that says what the dose should be?

-Kathy

The info i have is for Amprolium 9.6% dosage give 0.012% 8 oz(48 tsp)per 50 gallons - moderate outbreak, 0.024% 16 oz(96 tsp)per 50 gallons - severe outbreak, 0.006% 4 oz (24 tsp) per 50 gallons maintenance. Roughly 1 tsp per gallon for moderate,2 tsp(actual approx.1.93 tsp) per gallon for severe outbreak, 1/2 tsp per gallon maintenance(1-2 weeks).

 

[Eggcessive]

This site has an interesting recommendation for 1 tsp.Amprollium for 5 liters water, just to confuse us more: http://www.alfavet.net/products/amprolium.html

In this one from the FDA, they recommend after a 5 day treatment, going ahead and treating with 1/2 strength for 1-2 more weeks: http://www.fda.gov/AnimalVeterinary...lDrugProducts/FOIADrugSummaries/ucm148849.htm

 

[Eggcessive]

The info i have is for Amprolium 9.6% dosage give 0.012% 8 oz(48 tsp)per 50 gallons - moderate outbreak, 0.024% 16 oz(96 tsp)per 50 gallons - severe outbreak, 0.006% 4 oz (24 tsp) per 50 gallons maintenance. Roughly 1 tsp per gallon for moderate,2 tsp(actual approx.1.93 tsp) per gallon for severe outbreak, 1/2 tsp per gallon maintenance(1-2 weeks).

I don't know about most people, but if I thought I had cocci in my flock, I would use the severe outbreak dose, LOL.

 

[casportpony]

I don't know about most people, but if I thought I had cocci in my flock, I would use the severe outbreak dose, LOL.

More is better, lol.

-Kathy

 

[Fred's Hens]

In the end? It comes down to experience.

We never, ever had coccidiosis here. Ever.

Then? This spring was horribly slow in coming. Wet, cool and odd. Wouldn't you know it, we had cocci outbreak for the very first time. There are, as you know, 8 or 9 strains, so it isn't just ONE thing. They morph. They adapt. They change and they are carried about the planet by migrating birds. The stuff this early summer in the northlands, here and right on up through eastern Canada was VIRULENT. Deadly as all get out. The strain went right through medicated feed like it was a joke. I'll never buy medicated feed again. Waste of time.

Corid water. 1/3 to 1/2 teaspoon per gallon. Knocks it out NOW, but the chicks have to actually drink it. Droppers are sometimes necessary if the situation is dire. I wouldn't worry about whether it is this micro difference in the formulas. Come on. Just put 1/2 teaspoon of the 20% powder and get it into your birds or they die. It's that simple. Some of these strains kill so fast that while I'm scratching head over meaningless differentials in precise dosing, I've lost 20 chicks, bled out and dead, and often these are irreplaceable, rare, heritage, breeder chicks.

Yogurt or raw milk, straight from the goat or cow is also soothing. NO VITAMINS during treatment. You're working against the med. Corid ie, amprolium, works by starving thiamine from the cysts in the gut. Don't feed the cysts vitamins, for heaven's sake. Serve corid water for 8 days. Take a week off and if you're even the least bit concerned, run them through a second 6 days of follow up. Amprolium is fairly innocuous to the bird. It's not an anti-biotic. You can even feed amprolium in small doses to hens and eat their eggs. I don't, but it shows how relatively innocuous Corid is.

No offense intended by my rather "forth right" talk here, but I'm a wee bit sensitive. I lost some irreplaceable chicks to death so I'm not particularly in any mood to use my more politically correct tone here.

 

[casportpony]

The info i have is for Amprolium 9.6% dosage give 0.012% 8 oz(48 tsp)per 50 gallons - moderate outbreak, 0.024% 16 oz(96 tsp)per 50 gallons - severe outbreak, 0.006% 4 oz (24 tsp) per 50 gallons maintenance. Roughly 1 tsp per gallon for moderate,2 tsp(actual approx.1.93 tsp) per gallon for severe outbreak, 1/2 tsp per gallon maintenance(1-2 weeks).

Ten Chicks, do you have a source for that?

Thinking outloud... If I take the 8 ounces and divide it by 50, that's .16 ounces per gallon. Then when I convert .16 ounces to ml, it's 4.7ish ml, which is pretty darn close to 5ml (amount recommended by Corid) and 4.7ish times 2 is almost exactly 9.5ml, which is the amount most poultry people use.

If I have made any errors, which I often do, please correct me!

-Kathy