Cochin Bantams and Frizzle Cochin Bantams!!

[TeaChick]

Good! I'll only get frizzles in hens

It's just simpler that way.
Some ppl have the space, materials, time, and energy to build pens to keep them separated. I don't, so I'm keeping it simple for myself. =)

 

[DuckRaiser]

It's just simpler that way.
Some ppl have the space, materials, time, and energy to build pens to keep them separated.  I don't, so I'm keeping it simple for myself. =)

Frazzles...Hmm...I thought in my book that was a typoXD

 

[TeaChick]

Frazzles...Hmm...I thought in my book that was a typoXD

Yeah, I know what you mean. I thought I was misunderstanding something at first too. But someone explained the genetics to me and it made sense. =)

 

[DuckRaiser]

Yeah, I know what you mean. I thought I was misunderstanding something at first too. But someone explained the genetics to me and it made sense. =)

So everyone started fighting with me saying "Your book was wrong! Don't believe it! It's outta date!"

It really hurt my feelings...PM me to know why.

 

[mindylee]

I went to Kroger to shop and got this yummy lookin potato salad out of the deli and it looked sooo good so I got a pound of it. Here it is the next day and busted it out with my trusty fork and dove in...

NASTY!!!!!
However my bantams didn't complain and they dove right in! They was covered in salad sauce and much enjoyed that $8 pound of yucky potato salad!

Lol

 

[CCCCCCCCHICKENS]

I went to Kroger to shop and got this yummy lookin potato salad out of the deli and it looked sooo good so I got a pound of it. Here it is the next day and busted it out with my trusty fork and dove in...

NASTY!!!!!
However my bantams didn't complain and they dove right in! They was covered in salad sauce and much enjoyed that $8 pound of yucky potato salad!

Lol

At least it didn't go to waste lol. Today everyone got this slop , it is oatmeal, millet, crushed corn, suet, and BOSS. There were mixed feeling about the new treat lol
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I had a white rock rooster, sounding warning calls, when I gave them their little bowl full, but the Mottled cochin Bantam rooster, was brave enough to try it. I had a BR rooster that liked it so much, he tried to eat the stryofoam bowl too lol

 

[DuckRaiser]

I went to Kroger to shop and got this yummy lookin potato salad out of the deli and it looked sooo good so I got a pound of it. Here it is the next day and busted it out with my trusty fork and dove in...

NASTY!!!!!
However my bantams didn't complain and they dove right in! They was covered in salad sauce and much enjoyed that $8 pound of yucky potato salad!

Lol

My chickens will eat ANYTHING! Heck, they'll eat animals guts! LOL!

 

[jajeanpierre]

Frizzle is a dominant gene; if you have a frizzle chicken, he or she has one frizzle gene and one smooth gene.
If you breed two frizzles together, there's a 50% chance of getting frizzles (b/c the chicks will have gotten a frizzle gene from one parent and a smooth gene from the other);
there's a 25% chance of getting a smooth chick (b/c that's the chances of the chick getting a double copy of each parent's smooth gene);
and there's a 25% chance of getting a frazzle (b/c the chick will have ended up with a double copy of the parents' frizzled gene).
This double copy of the dominant frizzle gene messes up the feathers and makes them painful for the frazzled bird.

Actually, frizzle is not a dominant gene, but is incompletely dominant. If it were dominant, a double copy frizzle (a frazzle) would be indistinguishable from a frizzle (a single copy of the frizzle gene paired with a smooth, normal feather gene. But, frazzles (FF) are very different from frizzles (Ff). There are also modifying genes that suppress the expression of the frizzle gene, which can complicate it.

 

[Black Cochin Bantams]

What doesn't make sense? If you have a frizzle hen and rooster in a pen together. Then the hen lays an egg, you hatch it, and you have can have a frazzle. It doesn't make sense that its feathers are sensitive? Apparently they have sensitive nerves. I don't know why, but apparently there is something in their genes that causes them to be have extreme sensitivity to touch. Maybe it is a mutation or soemething. I can't say for sure, i know some genetics, but I am not a genetics guru.

The true frazzles have EXTREMELY brittle feathers and are easily damaged. . Breeding a frazzle is something I never want to be responsible for doing. I only keep Frizzle hens so I have no chance of making one.

 

[jajeanpierre]

The true frazzles have EXTREMELY brittle feathers and are easily damaged. . Breeding a frazzle is something I never want to be responsible for doing. I only keep Frizzle hens so I have no chance of making one.

I agree. It is a horrible and usually short life for a chicken. They have so many problems. My two frazzles were bought as frizzles from a hatchery. The blurb on them said I could expect 1/2 frizzle and 1/2 smooth. I got three frazzles and one frizzle out of four. This year's blurb on frizzled Cochins say 1/4 smooth, so every pen is frizzle to frizzle breeding.

Lately, I am reading on this forum from multiple members that frazzles suffer pain when handled because of their delicate feathers/skin. Is everyone just repeating my anecdotal observations, or is there some other reference everyone is referring to? I would suggest that if you are only using my observations, that it not be passed off as fact. It is just my conclusions from observing two frazzled birds, and I could be completely wrong. Perhaps my two frazzles are just a bit more spooky or difficult to handle than other birds. I do not know for a fact that my handling is causing the birds some discomfort.