Cochin breeding, genetics, and showing

[lilcrow]

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If you're breeding Andalusian Blue you will get Black and Splash, but Black is probably more involved in breeding self-blue which is a dilution of Black.

Andalusian Blue is diluted black, Self Blue is the lavender gene.

OK I'm confused, regarding the Lavender gene, I thought I understood it to be a diluting gene. Is this incorrect? And how does the Andalusian gene "dilute" specifically as it relates to splash? Maybe this is all semantics, but I'd like to understand it better.

 

[Coopa Cabana]

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Andalusian Blue is diluted black, Self Blue is the lavender gene.

OK I'm confused, regarding the Lavender gene, I thought I understood it to be a diluting gene. Is this incorrect? And how does the Andalusian gene "dilute" specifically as it relates to splash? Maybe this is all semantics, but I'd like to understand it better.

You are correct that lav is a diluting gene - it dilutes both black and red pigments. But it is a gene unto itself - lavender is not a diluted form of black. Did I help or further muddy the water?

 

[sjarvis00]

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Andalusian Blue is diluted black, Self Blue is the lavender gene.

OK I'm confused, regarding the Lavender gene, I thought I understood it to be a diluting gene. Is this incorrect? And how does the Andalusian gene "dilute" specifically as it relates to splash? Maybe this is all semantics, but I'd like to understand it better.

the Andalusion Blue Dilutes Black to blue when 1 copy of teh gene is present, when the offspring inherit 2 copies of the gene you get splash.
BL/BL = Black
BL/bl= Blue
bl/bl= splash

lavendar is a seperate gene all together that breeds true, that is to say it will not produce black or splash. The Lavendar or Self Blue bird will also not be laced, will often a bluish tint to the beak as well.

 

[Cakela]

Oh, See. I have no idea about genetics.

Good thing there's breeders/caretakers like you all who do!

I just now saw that lilcrow replied to me, sorry for ignoring!

I will hang in here and read all I can. I really have no interest in showing and such, I just love beautiful birds. I've already learned a lot from all of you just by reading and I appreciate everyone's nice replies. I actually tried the original cochin thread and was ignored, which is why I came here.

 

[Black Cochin Bantams]

Took a picture today of the only male I kept from last years breeding.

 

[sjarvis00]

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That is a nice looking Columbian, how are the wing primaries?

 

[SierraView]

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He's beautiful

 

[Black Cochin Bantams]

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That is a nice looking Columbian, how are the wing primaries?

Color is good but I feel that his primaries are too long. Would like to see wider primaries.

 

[Coopa Cabana]

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Will he be coming to Denver with you? It would be great to see some Columbians and Partridge shown.

 

[Black Cochin Bantams]

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Will he be coming to Denver with you? It would be great to see some Columbians and Partridge shown.

If he doesn't molt in the next few months. I will be bringing at least a Black or 2 some Columbians and hopefully several partridge. I want to see a GL or 2 if possible. Maybe I will convince you to breed Columbians again. Trying to decide how many I can get in my most fuel efficient vehicle. I could bring a lot of birds if I drove the gas hog(which is going to Indianapolis).