Cochin breeding, genetics, and showing

[Shadow920]

will chickens lose interest in hens if they are defeated in a fight with another rooster but survive? my New Hampshire Red almost killed him. and would have had i not realized what was going on. afterwards Shadow stopped crowing and lost interest in the hens. so i'm actually hoping that will change by next spring. now that i have them separated. can that happen?

 

[lilcrow]

will chickens lose interest in hens if they are defeated in a fight with another rooster but survive? my New Hampshire Red almost killed him. and would have had i not realized what was going on. afterwards Shadow stopped crowing and lost interest in the hens. so i'm actually hoping that will change by next spring. now that i have them separated. can that happen?

No, he hasn't lost interest, he is simply trying to survive. Once he is defeated and it sounds like a very severe defeat at that, as the loser he is no longer allowed to crow or breed hens. If he was to try, the winner would punish him again and possibly this time succeed in killing him. The loser MUST stay in his place or suffer the consequences.

And yes, if the loser is given a safe place and knows that the winner can't reach him (Preferably out of sight of each other, although they can still hear each other) he will most likely begin to experiment with crowing and eventually breeding, once he is certain of his safety.

 

[Shadow920]

they can see each other but the are divided by a chainlink barrier and both have their own hens and seem relaxed. so maybe there is still hope.

 

[curious chickee]

Does anyone have any standard barred Cochin pullets, young hens, chicks, or eggs for next season (after holidays) maybe can meet up at APA nationals in Jan. I would like to make standard Cochin black sex links to go with my buff cock and barred rock hen. Love the buff and black pullets produced but want more pure Cochin fluff than the cross. Would prefer from SQ stock, maybe the culls that didn't make your breeding stock.

 

[Shadow920]

hey can anone show me what a black Sex link cochin would look like. you if you breed a RIR marked Cochin with a Barred cochin? not strictly a sexlink but bred with the same colors as one. i want to see what the rooster would look like so if anyone knows or has pic i'd appreciate it.

 

[curious chickee]

this is what my cockerels are beginning to look like color wise, buff x barred

(Not my picture but similar)

 

[lilcrow]

this is what my cockerels are beginning to look like color wise, buff x barred



(Not my picture but similar)

I believe sex linked birds are generally an egg production bird. I've never heard of a sex linked Cochin. I don't believe there would be a benefit from it.

 

[curious chickee]

The benefit of a sex linked Cochin is for those who want a cool looking and sweet bird to add to their flock but don't want to worry about getting a cockerel, I have several friends who want my Cochin bared rock sex link, but would love a pure Cochin for eye candy in their small flock. Pretty much the same reason people buy hatchery Cochins.

 

[QueenMisha]

hey can anone show me what a black Sex link  cochin would look like.  you if you breed a RIR marked Cochin with a Barred cochin?  not strictly a sexlink but bred with the same colors as one.  i want to see what the rooster would look like so if anyone knows or has pic i'd appreciate it.

I don't have any pics but it would basically look like a a very fluffy version of a normal BSL - hens would be majority black with some red-orange coming in through the hackle and breast; males would be barred with some red/gold leakage. Unless you're going with a backwards sex-link cross - Barred male and red female. In which case you could expect to see both males and females Barred with red/gold leakage. Hope you're intending on working with bantams though - I've been seeking out a Standard Red Cochin for a while, with no luck. They exist - I've seen the pictures! - but nobody is talking and nobody is selling.

I believe sex linked birds are generally an egg production bird. I've never heard of a sex linked Cochin. I don't believe there would be a benefit from it.

Sex Linkage isn't strictly for egg-production. The common high-production BSLs and RSLs available from hatcheries are only high-production because they have been bred for it for many generations. Assuming you had access to the correct colors, you could breed a sex-linked Oriental Gamefowl that laid 10 eggs a year. The benefit of a sex-linked Cochin would be to guarantee the sex of standards and enable the easy sexing of bantams. Sex-linked chicks also sell more easily (or, the hens do, anyways).

 

[curious chickee]

I don't have any pics but it would basically look like a a very fluffy version of a normal BSL - hens would be majority black with some red-orange coming in through the hackle and breast; males would be barred with some red/gold leakage. Unless you're going with a backwards sex-link cross - Barred male and red female. In which case you could expect to see both males and females Barred with red/gold leakage. Hope you're intending on working with bantams though - I've been seeking out a Standard Red Cochin for a while, with no luck. They exist - I've seen the pictures! - but nobody is talking and nobody is selling.
Sex Linkage isn't strictly for egg-production. The common high-production BSLs and RSLs available from hatcheries are only high-production because they have been bred for it for many generations. Assuming you had access to the correct colors, you could breed a sex-linked Oriental Gamefowl that laid 10 eggs a year. The benefit of a sex-linked Cochin would be to guarantee the sex of standards and enable the easy sexing of bantams. Sex-linked chicks also sell more easily (or, the hens do, anyways).

If you use a buff cock, the hens are predominantly black at hatch but then turn mostly buff with some black leakage as they mature.