Cochin Thread!!!

[Black Cochin Bantams]

Hey"big time breeders" and "newbies" remember there is always someone out thier who is even more educated than you.And I don't think the perfect cochin has been bred yet.People remember how they are/were treated. And one day when you arn't expecting it. One of the so called "newbies" could be the one beating your birds.Just a little food for thought.I said COULD because I believe there are few breeder in cochins ,I think just work magic ! They have an eye for this breed we all wish we had! There are many who have it but two that come right into my mind are Tom Roebuck and Joe Mazur.I appreciate each and every bird Tom shares with us here on the WWW. You usually have to catch one of Joe amazing birds in person to enjoy a look..So thank you to those willing to be an example .......Love cochin breeders Large and small.

P.S I also agree that people should do some reading before they jump right in from the" backyard breeder" page and ask the 1st thing at the top of thier head....lol

I can think of many breeders Cochins that do it year in and out. Mark Peterson, Tom Roebuck, Jamie Matts, Judy Gaant, Pat Lacey, Joe Mazur, Matt McCammon, Bill Zeim , Al Prado, Beanie Schrader. My birds have been soundly beaten by all of the names I mentioned. I agree that a good eye is needed and the people you mentioned definitely have that eye. Most focus on solid color birds and do that very well. All understand the criteria a judge looks for (more than a few are Judges too). All of those people know how to breed quality birds, condition their birds , select, and have them properly prepared for shows.

 

[Black Cochin Bantams]

Ok i have to confess as a newbie whenever i see Black Cochins/Craig comment from now on am going to think of Bob Barker(yes i was a fan of TPIR so this is a complement)--while not saying to spay or neuter your chickens, i believe he was just trying to make a point to breed responsibly. I think Mother Nature is going to throw enough curve balls--(I have HOW MANY ROOS!!!!!), that don't just play with what you have, unless your goal is just for pretty "mutt" chickens OR you are an experienced enough in chicken genetics to work on a project color variation.

I did have a thought though for you experienced peeps. Has anyone ever thought of starting a thread here "Learn about cochins" where you could put items like the diagram above where us newbies could look and let the light bulbs of knowledge come on? Hopefully it could be 10 pages or so that could be referred to for those types of beginner questions instead of us trying to go thru all 1353 pages in this post.

Try this site for information. http://www.cochinsint.com/education-articles.html

 

[earlybird10842]

I Just got a bantam Cochin straight-run chick. I named him Willowby in hope that He's a rooster.

 

[Reyvaughn]

I have had some not so nice dealings with many of the people on this thread, but I know the frustrations when the same questions are asked repeatedly. It's the same BS on the Ameraucana thread. Every 5-10 pages there is a EE vs Ameraucana fight. I can definitely see the redundancy. Some questions are valid and get ignored but the questions that are redundant and get a rise out of people get answered. I'd think it should be the other way around.

By the way, thank you for answering my question, Ki4got! I was weighing my options on whether it was worth the time and effort to breed out the recessive patterns or not. It may be since getting blacks is still a very slow process. It's baffling how it was cheaper and easier to get 6 chocolate bantam Orps for the project than a black bantam Cochin pair or trio! The Orps may have me converted and taken me away from the Cochins anyways.... I am considering getting out of the MFCs.

 

[Frizzled Pink]

Nancy (lilcrow) started a Cochin thread here on BYC for that very purpose. Really that thread could use some activity.

Thanks for the tip, the thread name if anyone else is trying to find it is...
Cochin breeding, genetics, and showing

Try this site for information. http://www.cochinsint.com/education-articles.html

Thank you

 

[Frizzled Pink]

I Just got a bantam Cochin straight-run chick. I named him Willowby in hope that He's a rooster.

*GASP* not Col Brandon---RUN MARIANNE-----

Obviously another Jane fan LOL

 

[davony's chicks]

Wow! Every once in a while this topic rears it ugly head and here it is again! I agree with so many, too many to quote on both sides of the coin.

I don't believe that Craig's post was meant to offend anyone. I do however believe it should make people think and take some responsibility for educating themselves. I remember in the beginning being new to BYC. I was on the MF thread and felt that someone on there snapped a newbies head off for what I felt was not deserved and it made me not want to post anything for quite sometime. Looking back after some time I realize that it probably sounded rougher than it really was and probably someone was frustrated by answering the same thing over and over. I still remember who that person is and I didn't have much respect for them at the time but now I have TONS of respect for that person.

I do believe you need to do some research and there are plenty of places to find information including this forum. I think that if people spent a little time building relationships on here then others would be more open to helping.

I have met some very nice people on here who have helped me tremendously and I appreciate them for their help.

 

[Coopa Cabana]

I hate it when this thread gets so touchy-feely. I don't think I've ever heard anyone here say that they are an expert, or that it's their way or the highway.

We all love our Cochins, and everyone has their own reasons, expectations and goals. That's all good. EVERYONE is welcome on this thread.

If your birds are your backyard pets, that's perfectly fine. We all love seeing pictures of everyone else's birds. And we are more than happy to share in your joy and tell you how pretty they are.

BUT (and this is a big but!), if you ask us what we think, we can only assume you want an honest opinion and critique, which is what you will get.

And for those that are still upset with Craig for posting the "X to Y Cross" comment, it was my original comment - so get mad at me.

~Gail

 

[davony's chicks]

I hate it when this thread gets so touchy-feely. I don't think I've ever heard anyone here say that they are an expert, or that it's their way or the highway.

We all love our Cochins, and everyone has their own reasons, expectations and goals. That's all good. EVERYONE is welcome on this thread.

If your birds are your backyard pets, that's perfectly fine. We all love seeing pictures of everyone else's birds. And we are more than happy to share in your joy and tell you how pretty they are.

BUT (and this is a big but!), if you ask us what we think, we can only assume you want an honest opinion and critique, which is what you will get.

And for those that are still upset with Craig for posting the "X to Y Cross" comment, it was my original comment - so get mad at me.

~Gail

Well said Gail. couldn't agree more.

 

[davony's chicks]

I hate to change the subject..... LOL

I was wondering about split wing. Will it show up in chicks early? I was looking at some of my chicks wings tonight and noticed that one of them shows split wing and didn't know if this is something that is too early to look for in a week old chick or not.

Any help would be appreciated.
Tony