Cochin Thread!!!

[cochinman2005]

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I am not sure if I am more confused or if it is starting to dawn on me !

I was under the impression they were 2 different things and therefore had 2 different names and that blue will not breed true and that 'lavender' will.
I gotta go read up on this more.
For the longest time I did not want to as why should I confuse myself further on something that does not concern me...but the blue genetics do concern me...*Sigh!*

Blue X Blue produces 25% Black, 25% Splash and 50% Blue, so doesn't technically breed "true."

Self-Blue X Self-Blue produces 100% Self-Blue. The addition of the term "Self" was meant to differentiate between the two, as in, if you breed it to itself, it produces itself, from a color perspective, whereas you get the mixed results from breeding regular (Andalusian) blue together.

 

[dak]

I realize I'm beating a dead horse so to speak, but this is one of the arguments for using the term lavender over self-blue (a recessive). It is to differentiate it from the Andalusian blue with I think should also be properly desribed as an incomplete dominant gene. Neither dominant or recessive.

The Ameraucana people almost without exception using the term lavender. I believe they are very close to getting the color recognized in Ameraucanas.

In addition, isn't the gene abreviated Lav/Lav??? Not 100% sure on this point.

 

[Coopa Cabana]

That horse dead yet???

I, too, prefer "Lavender" for the color created by the Lavender (Lav) gene. But this opinion only comes from the confusion so many have regarding how the Andalusion Blue gene works. When they hear "Self-Blue", they automatically think it must have something to do with all other "Blues". No wonder there is so much confusion.

But I, too, am trying to teach myself to correctly refer to them as Self-Blues, as that is the SOP name, and there is no SOP "Lavender Variety".

Heck, I'm still trying to correct myself every time I pronounce Cochin "Co-shin"!!

Whenever I hear of something referred to as "Self-Colored", it reminds me of the irises in my garden. Self-Blue, Self-Orange, etc, tells me that the Standards, Falls and Shafts are all the same even color, with no shade or tonal variances.

 

[Chickielady]

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Thankyou !
You are correct in the fact like dak also said, that it is indeed 2 very different things, and should have a different name, and lavender is OK, but self blue and blue is just too closely sounding...

 

[Wendy'sChicksRock]

Please post pics of your Partridge bantams.... Would love to see them

 

[Coopa Cabana]

Wendy'sChicksRock :

Please post pics of your Partridge bantams.... Would love to see them

I found a couple of pics for you - page 180 of this thread, scroll down to cochinman2005's post, #1799. I think there are some Partridge discussions in the posts surrounding it. (if you also go to cochinman's website link, he has some beautiful Partridge pics there, also.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=195235&p=180​

 

[Hens and Roos]

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I found a couple of pics for you - page 180 of this thread, scroll down to cochinman2005's post, #1799. I think there are some Partridge discussions in the posts surrounding it. (if you also go to cochinman's website link, he has some beautiful Partridge pics there, also.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=195235&p=180

very nice looking ones! we have some Partridge bantams and they are very mellow-4 girls and 2 boys. 2 of the girls would love to sit on eggs and we only get 1 or 2 eggs only a couple times a week even with extra light on them. We have been testing the eggs for fertility but so far nothing-may have to learn AI so that my kids are able to hatch some for 4-H projects this year.

 

[Chickie'sMoma]

about the AI thing, i know that some people like to trim the butt fluff on their birds instead and i am deciding if i should do this to a few of my birds. so which gender do you usually trim the feathers, male or female or both?

 

[Coopa Cabana]

Chickie'sMoma :

about the AI thing, i know that some people like to trim the butt fluff on their birds instead and i am deciding if i should do this to a few of my birds. so which gender do you usually trim the feathers, male or female or both?

Trim both the males and females for best results. Females above the vent; males below the vent. Make sure you're outside and downwind - the fluff almost disintegrates as you trim! Many prefer plucking over trimming.​

 

[Hens and Roos]

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Trim both the males and females for best results. Females above the vent; males below the vent. Make sure you're outside and downwind - the fluff almost disintegrates as you trim! Many prefer plucking over trimming.

That's what I was told to do and so far the eggs we have put into the incubator to test are not fertile so will have to learn how to collect for AI.