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Please stay . . . we really are trying to encourage more people to get involved with LF. I would, but I just don't have the coop space. And there really is a lot discussed here that applies to both bantam and LF.
 
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This is the outline of Brian Reeder's book I did a while back: Kind of lengthy, but scroll down to the middle and a bunch of color varieties are listed under the specific alleles.

The Genetics of Color and Pattern (Brian Reeder):

Melanin (pigment) – two forms:
Pheomelanin (red pigment) – two types:
Autosomal
Sex-Linked
Eumelanin (black pigment)

The E-Locus:
e+ Wild type or Duckwing
eWh Wheaten
eb Brown
ER Birchen
E Extended Black

The order of dominance in the e-allele is: E->ER->eWh (without melanizers present)
e+->eb->eWh (when melanizers are present)

The Gene List:

Diluters which have a greater influence on pheomelanin:
S – Sex-linked Silver
ap+ - Absence of Autosomal pheomelanin
Di – Dilute
Cb – Champagne Blonde
ig – inhibitor of gold
Diluters which have a greater influence on Eumelanin:
I – Dominant white
Bl – Blue
Id – Dun
“rc” – recessive chocolate
Diluters with an equal effect on both forms of melanin:
lav – lavender
Intensifiers of Pheomelanin:
Mh – Mahogany
Extenders of Pheomelanin:
Co – Columbian
Db – Dark Brown “ginger”
Extenders of Eumelanin:
Ml – Melanotic
cha – charcoal
“rb” – recessive black
Genes removing all pigment:
c - Recessive white
Feather-pattern modifier genes:
Pg – Pattern gene
B – sex-linked Barring
mo – mottling

Composite Combinations:

Wild type or Duckwing (e+) – chick down is chipmunk striped; aka agouti (when not affected by other dilution or enhancement genes)
Wheaten (eWh) – chick down, in general, tends to be solid white or yellow or pale orange, with no patterning
Brown (eb) – chick down has the greatest variation of all alleles; the basic eb s+ chick is quite like the e+s+ chick, but they are more diffused in their striping down the back; difficult to determine this allele by chick down alone
Birchen (ER) – chick down, in most instances, is black with a reddish head, even when S is present
Extended Black (E) – chick down of this allele is black and marbled on the undersides with yellow to white

Color Varieties and Patterns: (shown by common variety name, then (genetically correct name))

Duckwing (e+)
e+ Varieties based on s+:
Black Breasted Red, Partridge (Red Duckwing)
Light Brown (Dilute Red Duckwing)
Cream Light Brown (Cream Red Duckwing)
Dark Brown (Mahogany Red Duckwing)
Blue Red (Blue Red Duckwing)
Blue Light Brown (Blue Dilute Red Duckwing)
Red Pyle (Dominant White Red Duckwing)
Crele (Barred Red Duckwing)
Ginger Red (Ginger Red Duckwing)
Red Quill (Autosomal Barred Red Duckwing)
Brassy Back (Melanized Dilute Red Duckwing)
Quail (Melanized Columbian Red Duckwing)
“Spangled” or “Speckled” as in OEG or Sussex – NOT Hamburg (Mottled Dark Red Duckwing)
e+ Varieties based on S:
Silver Duckwing (same)
Golden Duckwing (same)
Blue Silver Duckwing (same)
Blue Golden Duckwing (same)
White (Dominant White Silver Duckwing)
Red Shoulder as in Yokohama – (shortened – White Spangled Mahogany Dilute Duckwing)

Wheaten (eWh)
eWh Varieties based on s+:
Wheaten (Dilute Orange Wheaten; Red Wheaten; Mahogany Red Wheaten)
Dark Black Breasted Red as in Cubalaya (Dark Red Wheaten)
Red Cap (Spangled Dark Red Wheaten)
Black tailed Buff (Dilute Ginger Red Wheaten; lighter birds with Columbian: Dilute Columbian Red Wheaten)
Black tailed “Red” as in New Hampshire (Mahogany Dilute Ginger Red Wheaten)
Black tailed Red as in RI Red (Mahogany Ginger Red Wheaten)
Buff (Pheomelanically Extended Dilute Red Wheaten, or Buff Wheaten)
Red (Pheomelanically Extended Red Wheaten, or Self Red Wheaten)
eWh Varieties based on S:
Silver Wheaten (same)
Salmon as in favorelle (Mahogany Silver Wheaten)
Black tailed White (Ginger Silver Wheaten)

Brown (eb)
eb Varieties based on s+:
Dark Brown as in Leghorn; Brown as in Cochin (Dark Red Brown)
Partridge as in Cochin, Wyandotte, Rock (Patterned mahogany red Brown
Dark as in Cornish; Double Laced as in Barnevelder (Double Laced Red Brown)
Jubilee (White Double Laced Red Brown)
Buff Columbian; Buff as in Brahma (Columbian Red Brown)
Vorwerk (Melanized Columbian red Brown)
Golden Laced as in Cochin or Wyandotte (Laced Columbian Red Brown)
Blue Laced Red (Blue Laced Mahogany Columbian Red Brown; Blue Laced Red Brown for short)
White Laced Red (White Laced Red Brown)
Mille Fleur (Mottled Ginger Red Brown)
Porcelain (Lavender Mottled Ginger Red Brown
Blue Mille Fleur (Blue Mottled Ginger Red Brown)
Golden Neck (Dominant White Mottled Ginger Red Brown)
Golden Penciled as in Hamburg (males – Ginger Red Brown; females Patterned Ginger Red Brown)
Yellow White Penciled as in Friesian (Dominant White Patterned Ginger Red Brown)
Golden Spangled as in Hamburg (Melanized Patterned Ginger Red Brown; or Spangled Ginger Red Brown)
eb Varieties based on S:
Silver Penciled as in Cochin, Wyandotte, Rock; Dark as in Brahma (Patterned Silver Brown)
Columbian as in Cochin, Wyandotte, Rock; Light as in Brahma (Columbian Silver Brown)
Lakenvelder (Melanized Columbian Silver Brown)
Silver Laced as in Cochin, Wyandotte (Laced Columbian Silver Brown)
Silver Penciled as in Hamburg (males – Ginger Silver Brown; females – Patterned Ginger Silver Brown)
White (same)
Black as in Wyandotte, Leghorn (Fully Melanized Brown)

Birchen (ER)
ER Varieties based on s+:
Brown Red, Lemon Brown (in Cochin – Red Birchen) (in OEG and Modern Game – Dilute Red Birchen)
Blue Red, Lemon Blue (same as above – add Blue: Blue Red Birchen and Blue Dilute Red Birchen)
Black tailed Buff in OEG made on ER (Dilute Ginger Red Birchen)
Golden Penciled as in Campine, Braekel (Patterned Ginger Red Birchen)
Golden Laced as in Polish, Seabright (Laced Ginger Red Birchen)
Black (Melanized Red Birchen)
ER Varieties based on S:
Birchen (Silver Birchen)
Silver Blue (Bl/bl+ Blue Silver Birchen; Bl/Bl Splash Silver Birchen)
Silver Penciled as in Campine, Braekel (Patterned Ginger Silver Birchen
Silver Spangled as in Hamburg (Spangled Ginger Silver Birchen)
Silver Laced as in Polish, Seabright (Laced Ginger Silver Birchen)
Black (Melanized Silver Birchen)
White as in Leghorn (Dominant White Silver Birchen)

Extended Black (E)
Black (Melanized Extended Black
White (Dominant White Extended Black or Recessive White Extended Black)
Mottled (Mottled Melanized Extended Black or Mottled Black)
Barred and/or Cuckoo (Barred Melanized Extended Black; Cuckoo Melanized Extended Black)
Blue and “Splash” (Single Dilute or Double Dilute Blue Melanized Extended Black)
Dun and Dun Splash (Single Dilute or Double Dilute Dun Melanized Extended Black)
Lavender (Lavender Melanized Extended Black)
Chocolate (chocolate Melanized Extended Black)
 
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This is the outline of Brian Reeder's book I did a while back: Kind of lengthy, but scroll down to the middle and a bunch of color varieties are listed under the specific alleles.

The Genetics of Color and Pattern (Brian Reeder):

Melanin (pigment) – two forms:
Pheomelanin (red pigment) – two types:
Autosomal
Sex-Linked
Eumelanin (black pigment)

The E-Locus:
e+ Wild type or Duckwing
eWh Wheaten
eb Brown
ER Birchen
E Extended Black

The order of dominance in the e-allele is: E->ER->eWh (without melanizers present)
e+->eb->eWh (when melanizers are present)

The Gene List:

(Lavender Melanized Extended Black)
Chocolate (chocolate Melanized Extended Black)

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I used to think i was smart!
 
I was a biology major in College (and did very well in genetics class) but Chicken genetics is WAY complicated! Makes my head spin for sure! (Now I am a very happy, "starving" musician who also happens to have a few chickens in the back yard!)

Robert



Quote:
This is the outline of Brian Reeder's book I did a while back: Kind of lengthy, but scroll down to the middle and a bunch of color varieties are listed under the specific alleles.

The Genetics of Color and Pattern (Brian Reeder):

Melanin (pigment) – two forms:
Pheomelanin (red pigment) – two types:
Autosomal
Sex-Linked
Eumelanin (black pigment)

The E-Locus:
e+ Wild type or Duckwing
eWh Wheaten
eb Brown
ER Birchen
E Extended Black

The order of dominance in the e-allele is: E->ER->eWh (without melanizers present)
e+->eb->eWh (when melanizers are present)

The Gene List:

(Lavender Melanized Extended Black)
Chocolate (chocolate Melanized Extended Black)

th.gif
I used to think i was smart!
 
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In 08 was lucky enough to get from Karl and Norman Rau my start in Cochins! I have kept the line pure, and have shown and won with their birds.
They were after 35 years were done asked them to send me there very best They did!!!!!!!!! blue, black, and Splash and Mottled.
 
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In 08 was lucky enough to get from Karl and Norman Rau my start in Cochins! I have kept the line pure, and have shown and won with their birds.
They were after 35 years were done asked them to send me there very best They did!!!!!!!!! blue, black, and Splash and Mottled.

Ummmm, pictures, PLEASE. (especially the mottled!)​
 
Just so that I'm not steering someone wrong - I really need to clarify. I am NOT a Geneticist . . . I'm just trying to study and learn along with the rest of you. As I said, that was nothing more than an outline I did a year ago of Brian Reeder's book.

In my real life, I'm a Bean Counter/Accountess - OK, my official title is General Ledger Manager. I spend my day spewing forth financial statements - P&L's, Balance Sheets, etc.

A couple of years ago, I had two white Silkie hens - I couldn't tell one from the other. So I named them Debit and Credit. After that, I was always able to tell them apart - whenever I looked at them, Debit was always on the left and Credit was always on the right.

I hope I haven't mislead anyone. ~Gail
 

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