Cockerel or pullet!?

[MysteryChicken]

View attachment 2364375First pic is half brother from another mother, second two are dad, third is brothers mother, and fourth is half sister from hen in pic three

You stole my birds .

These are my project Wheaten Crele Orpingtons.

 

[NatJ]

Okay, you want to know more about barring with sexlinked dilution...I'm still learning about this gene myself, so this is some information I can share.

I'm not familiar with that gene either. Are you able to direct me to a source where I can learn more about it?

 

[MysteryChicken]

I'm not familiar with that gene either. Are you able to direct me to a source where I can learn more about it?

I might. I'll have to do some digging around to find a good article on it. Certain genes are hard to find to read up on.
I'll be right back with a link if I can find one.

 

[MysteryChicken]

Surprisingly, I found a good article that I'll be reading later to help me out with this particular gene.
https://journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article?id=10.1371/journal.pgen.1006665


It's alot of reading.

 

[NatJ]

Surprisingly, I found a good article that I'll be reading later to help me out with this particular gene.
https://journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article?id=10.1371/journal.pgen.1006665

It's alot of reading.

"A lot of reading" is definitely an understatement!
Thank you, that's really interesting. It's saying there are actually FOUR alleles at the barring locus, and two of them produce lighter barring than the one we're used to seeing in Barred Rocks. Given that one was found in White Leghorns, which are pretty common, then it may not be reasonable to assume any light-barred bird must be a cockerel. Darn, that was a handy shortcut for gender of mixed-breed birds.

 

[MysteryChicken]

"A lot of reading" is definitely an understatement!
Thank you, that's really interesting. It's saying there are actually FOUR alleles at the barring locus, and two of them produce lighter barring than the one we're used to seeing in Barred Rocks. Given that one was found in White Leghorns, which are pretty common, then it may not be reasonable to assume any light-barred bird must be a cockerel. Darn, that was a handy shortcut for gender of mixed-breed birds.

You're welcome.
Yes it's very interesting.

 

[Nigel27]

You stole my birds .
View attachment 2364549View attachment 2364550View attachment 2364551These are my project Wheaten Crele Orpingtons.

WTF! Neat-o!

 

[Nigel27]

Still not convinced, moms got a huge red comb. Here’s some updated pics of unknown

 

[Nigel27]

The cockerel behind is the same age, with obviously pointed feathers

 

[MarkJr]

Cockerel. I’m almost positive I’m seeing saddles and pointy hackles.