Coco pop seramas Thread !!!!!!!!!!!!

[gumbii]

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As far as I know, no one has ever proven the existence of dun in the Serama. I've asked about it before here. I would love to be proven wrong. If you think you have dun, breed it to black and show that it produces black and duns. Then breed dun to dun and show that it produces khaki, dun and black. I know Seramas are very diverse genetically, but as we select and refine their colors, I think we will produce many true-breeding colors, including coco pop. It just takes a lot of time and hard work and good record-keeping.

but that's what i'm saying about dun or chocolate birds... it's super hard to breed out the other traits because if a serama is a patridge/columbian/melanized/dun/patterned/silver that means that it's split for wheaton/blue/choc/lav/duckwing/black tail/birchen/lemon/dilute/barred/mottled/recessive white and everything else possible...


LOL...


you guys see what you guys are trying to do...? i think it's great, but it's really going to be a group effort to get this done right... my friend jose has some "cocopop" birds, so i'll help him try to breed out the other genes...

 

[LAseramas KP]

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I thought you said you are getting out of the hobby.....Why are you buying birds if you don't have time to take care of them??? Don't tell me you have decided to quit your job as a truck driver and go raise chicken......I would not do it if I were you unless you know everything about breeding and raising chickens.

Another thing, why you always tell people to ask this person or that person about your birds??? Don't you have confident in what you do?? If you do your homework, you should be able to produce birds according to the standart of perfection regardless whom or where your breeders come from. To use other people's name to market your bird will not get you far....it's best to let your productions speak for you....that is how you earn your respect and credential in the hobby world....Good luck..JP

Well just like you say in the other thread joey what about my dad keep some birds and that gave me an idea and no im not quitting my job over chickens lol but my dad just love the coco pop line and color so he wants to breed them true to their color thats why im ordering a few from grady taylor he is shipping them out to my dad on monday very nice guy and has lots of knowledge on seramas so guess i have to thank you for the idea

 

[SilverPhoenix]

I love cocoapop! So many beautiful variations on birds. My rooster Nova is cocoapop...I believe?

Just hatched his first batch of chicks recently, they're doing great.

 

[LAseramas KP]

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Is he from one of your breeding project and if so do you have pics of his parent and btw he is very beautiful just love the bright red on him

 

[SilverPhoenix]

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Is he from one of your breeding project and if so do you have pics of his parent and btw he is very beautiful just love the bright red on him

Nope, I bought him at a show! In a few months I'll have pictures of his offspring, though... Right now they're just little fluffs! And thank you, I absolutely love him!

 

[muffi]

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As far as I know, no one has ever proven the existence of dun in the Serama. I've asked about it before here. I would love to be proven wrong. If you think you have dun, breed it to black and show that it produces black and duns. Then breed dun to dun and show that it produces khaki, dun and black. I know Seramas are very diverse genetically, but as we select and refine their colors, I think we will produce many true-breeding colors, including coco pop. It just takes a lot of time and hard work and good record-keeping.

but that's what i'm saying about dun or chocolate birds... it's super hard to breed out the other traits because if a serama is a patridge/columbian/melanized/dun/patterned/silver that means that it's split for wheaton/blue/choc/lav/duckwing/black tail/birchen/lemon/dilute/barred/mottled/recessive white and everything else possible...


LOL...


you guys see what you guys are trying to do...? i think it's great, but it's really going to be a group effort to get this done right... my friend jose has some "cocopop" birds, so i'll help him try to breed out the other genes...

It should be easy enough to identify dun if you breed to true-breeding blacks. This is just an experimental cross that could answer some questions about what we are working with.

 

[LAseramas KP]

reason why i ask is to see how the seramas genes work and what color each one throw out . I know kate from ocseramas has a few but i really like the one she call "Mr. Snickers" wonder if she can drop in and share some of her knowledge on this color from a breeder point of view

 

[bigb-71]

yep he's cocopop! and a nice one to. he live just down the road from me. maybe i can barrow him one day to breed with one of my girl's. hint hint. lol

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[gumbii]

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but that's what i'm saying about dun or chocolate birds... it's super hard to breed out the other traits because if a serama is a patridge/columbian/melanized/dun/patterned/silver that means that it's split for wheaton/blue/choc/lav/duckwing/black tail/birchen/lemon/dilute/barred/mottled/recessive white and everything else possible...


LOL...


you guys see what you guys are trying to do...? i think it's great, but it's really going to be a group effort to get this done right... my friend jose has some "cocopop" birds, so i'll help him try to breed out the other genes...

It should be easy enough to identify dun if you breed to true-breeding blacks. This is just an experimental cross that could answer some questions about what we are working with.

yes, but i heard that serama have true choc genes... so for anyone it will be confusing to isolate the dun and chocolate gene... both of them breed different... dun acts like blue, but choc has it's own rules...

it will be easier to isolate the choc gene more than the dun gene...


just saying...

 

[bigb-71]

ya but we all love this breed and love to work with it and with proper records and breeding we will find the truth. and if not we will atleast have fun doing it. and yes IT MUST BE A GROUPE EFFORT!
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It should be easy enough to identify dun if you breed to true-breeding blacks. This is just an experimental cross that could answer some questions about what we are working with.

yes, but i heard that serama have true choc genes... so for anyone it will be confusing to isolate the dun and chocolate gene... both of them breed different... dun acts like blue, but choc has it's own rules...

it will be easier to isolate the choc gene more than the dun gene...


just saying...