Color generics for muscovy

[18awesomechickens]

So I had this duck her name was violet and she did have a few babies. Last year I ended getting forced to rehome the muscovies. The guy who Violet went to was with a white drake and she had a baby which is getting given to me along with some quail. is there any way if I were to breed that female and get the lilac/blue fawn back? Because I know white is dominant and angry to know which color of duck would be beat to breed her with? I have a blue, pied, and black recessive chocolate drakes to choose from.

 

[18awesomechickens]

There's momma duck and my black recessive chocolate drake

 

[18awesomechickens]

These are my other 2 drakes though only Bean (the blue) is nice with the chickens. Mocha always fights with the roosters and Sir. Drake thinks they are ducks too.

 

[Miss Lydia]

@Pyxis is good with color genetics. Beautiful Muscovy!

 

[Pyxis]

So you're looking to breed back to blue fawn/lilac - aka chocolate with blue?

Well, the chocolate from your original duck Violet would only pass to male ducklings, so if the duckling you're getting back is female, then she doesn't have chocolate, which means you need to use your drake carrying chocolate.

So in that case, the female you're getting back HAS to be blue. If she's not, then you've lost the blue.

If she is blue, then good news, breeding her with your black drakes that are carrying chocolate will actually yield you with 12.5% of the ducklings being lilac. They will, of course, all be female. To get more lilac males, you'd have to breed them back to the chocolate-carrying drakes or to their brothers.

Also of course half of all the ducklings from this female will be pied (because she herself must be pied, coming from a white drake). If you don't want that, just don't breed the pied ones going forward, and you'll lose the white that way.

 

[Pyxis]

Oh, if the duckling you're getting back isn't blue, then with your drakes, you still have all the building blocks available to create blue fawn, it's just going to be more complicated and how you'd want to go about it depends on what color this female duckling you're getting back is.

 

[18awesomechickens]

So you're looking to breed back to blue fawn/lilac - aka chocolate with blue?

Well, the chocolate from your original duck Violet would only pass to male ducklings, so if the duckling you're getting back is female, then she doesn't have chocolate, which means you need to use your drake carrying chocolate.

So in that case, the female you're getting back HAS to be blue. If she's not, then you've lost the blue.

If she is blue, then good news, breeding her with your black drakes that are carrying chocolate will actually yield you with 12.5% of the ducklings being lilac. They will, of course, all be female. To get more lilac males, you'd have to breed them back to the chocolate-carrying drakes or to their brothers.

Also of course half of all the ducklings from this female will be pied (because she herself must be pied, coming from a white drake). If you don't want that, just don't breed the pied ones going forward, and you'll lose the white that way.

Well Violet died and I'll only have her daughter which is a cross of violet and a white drake. Is there a way to get the color back like violets? I really like the blue fawn color.

 

[Pyxis]

Well Violet died and I'll only have her daughter which is a cross of violet and a white drake. Is there a way to get the color back like violets? I really like the blue fawn color.

Yes, but I have to know what color this duckling you're taking back is. If it's blue, that makes everything MUCH easier.

I know it must be pied, but I have to know what color pied - blue pied, black pied, etc.

 

[18awesomechickens]

She's full grown and she's white

 

[Pyxis]

She's full grown and she's white

Solid white?

That doesn't make sense, given that blue fawn bred to white should yield all pied ducklings only. If she's white, then her mother must have been pied or white. Your original duck that's pictured doesn't appear to be either - which means she can't have been the mother.

That's not to say you can't still make blue fawn ducks using the drakes you have now - you definitely can. But it's going to be harder and take multiple generations, depending on what color genetics are happening with your white hen. White masks all, so it's impossible to say what color genetics she has going on.

I would start by breeding her to your drake that's split to chocolate. Keep the chocolate pied females for the next cross. If you get lucky, the white hen might be genetically blue or chocolate. That would make everything much easier.