color genetic info wanted on Lavanders

[Chris09]

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modeled or mottled?

Mottled..


Chris

 

[iajewel]

So if I have this right.. you have to have lavender.. you can't create lavender.. and once you have it.. thats all you will ever get out of that bird.

 

[LilPeeps]

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"Blue splash" plus lavender does NOT equal self blue. Self blue and lavender are the same thing. Splash (double dose of andalusian blue) has nothing to do with any aspect of self blue. They are completely different genes. Self blue, as mentioned above, is a recessive gene, while andalusian blue is incompletely dominant. Having a bird that is homozygous for both self blue and andalusian blue will just give you a very light colored bird, likely with some light lav patches where the blue splashes would occur.

 

[LilPeeps]

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Well the lav bird will always pass on one copy of the lav gene to 100% of its offspring, but what you can get from breeding that bird will depend on what it is bred to.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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Half right. Yes, you have to have the gene. However, you can breed in other genes that create pattern or add different dilutions.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

I think Chris is using the term "self blue" as most of the rest of the world uses it; not as the ABA & ABA use it.

 

[pinkchick]

After tons and tons of researching and studying the blue gene & lavender gene, my mind just couldn't wrap itself around some of the info, it left me with things I just could not comprehend.......UNTIL THIS THREAD. Thanks everyone!!!!!

To the O.P. thanks for posting your question!

 

[Chris09]

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"Blue splash" plus lavender does NOT equal self blue. Self blue and lavender are the same thing. Splash (double dose of andalusian blue) has nothing to do with any aspect of self blue. They are completely different genes. Self blue, as mentioned above, is a recessive gene, while andalusian blue is incompletely dominant. Having a bird that is homozygous for both self blue and andalusian blue will just give you a very light colored bird, likely with some light lav patches where the blue splashes would occur.

Here is the chart I got it from..

 

[Chris09]

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Like Henk69 and I have seen it first hand.
Andalusian blue can also be made unlaced and evenly spread so it would/ could be a Self Blue. So that would means NOT all Self Blues carry the Lavender Gene..(so not all Self Blues are Lavenders)


Chris

 

[LilPeeps]

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Like Henk69 and I have seen it first hand.
Andalusian blue can also be made unlaced and evenly spread so it would/ could be a Self Blue. So that would means NOT all Self Blues carry the Lavender Gene..(so not all Self Blues are Lavenders)


Chris

I see where you are coming from in that "self" refers to an even color, rather than being connected to the lav gene, so that andalusian can produce a self blue, but not the self blue as accepted by the APA and ABA.