Commercial chicken farms

[Katy]

I've got no use for most of those videos any way....most of the time they show the worst of the worst and ignore the ones that wouldn't help support their way of thinking. It's the same whether we're talking chickens, cattle or other livestock. The problem is most people have no experiance with raising livestock in real life and chose to believe that's the way they are.

 

[theOEGBman]

YES RODY!!! Well put! I cheered you through that whole post. Good job.

 

[Katy]

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Yup...that. And I think the practice of jamming thousands of birds into a windowless building, where it is kept dark 24 hours a day, the birds are kept knee deep in their own feces, and the birds have been genetically modified to the point of being crippled from unnatural growth spirts, and the workers have to come and clean up dead bodies everywhere on a daily basis animal cruelty. (ie: criminal) If you agree with the practice, go buy Tyson. If you don't, raise your own chickens or support someone whose practices you agree with...and you commerically raise chickens and don't treat your chickens like that...great. I wasn't referring to you.

Clearly we aren't all going to agree. I voiced my opinion but have no desire to debate the issue with you or anyone else. (Sorry for whoever busted out the popcorn! LOL!!!!

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You said you do not want to debate. So no debate there will be. I will only state FACTS.

1. The birds are not in windowless buildings. The sides of the buildings have curtains so that the curtains can be lowered or heightened according to the temperature inside of the building. Natural light is always recommended above man-made. During the night, lighting is used.

2. Birds will not eat in the dark. The houses are lit up. Every few hours the lights are turned off FOR THE BIRDS OWN GOOD so that they will take some time to digest what they have been eating.

3. Chickens don't have knees and if they were kept up to their HOCKS in feces, the breast would be covered in burns from the urea scalding them. Since we hardly ever see burns on the breasts of fryers, cut-ups and whole birds, you can rest assured the birds are not being kept up to their hocks in fecal matter.

3. Show me how genetic modification will make the birds more profitable, and I will show you several scholarly articles that state SELECTIVE BREEDING is how it is done.

4. The birds do not have "spurts". They grow at a steady rate.

5. Only those who do not know how to properly grow broilers end up with "dead bodies everywhere." Those that do know how to raise the birds wind up with huge profits, healthy birds and happy consumers.

to ROPO

 

[lorieMN]

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Yup...that. And I think the practice of jamming thousands of birds into a windowless building, where it is kept dark 24 hours a day, the birds are kept knee deep in their own feces, and the birds have been genetically modified to the point of being crippled from unnatural growth spirts, and the workers have to come and clean up dead bodies everywhere on a daily basis animal cruelty. (ie: criminal) If you agree with the practice, go buy Tyson. If you don't, raise your own chickens or support someone whose practices you agree with...and you commerically raise chickens and don't treat your chickens like that...great. I wasn't referring to you.

Clearly we aren't all going to agree. I voiced my opinion but have no desire to debate the issue with you or anyone else. (Sorry for whoever busted out the popcorn! LOL!!!!

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just wondering which one sided documentry you watched..they arent treated AT ALL like you described,,yes they are in a building,how else are you going to keep a thousand birds safe,yes some die,if you had a thousand birds I bet you would be picking up a dead bird or two most days also..at least in this part of the world,they have windows with screens,they open the windows when its nice enough to,these windows run along the whole length of the building from top to bottom in most cases,,the birds can actually see out..they are not in the dark,even in winter they have huge lights throughout the building.There is also huge fans drawing fresh air in from one end and blowing out the other end,they are fed automatic and water is automatic,,the hired hands are not allowed to have any type of bird at their own home to reduce the chance of illness.Its a business,so they are pushed to grow and they dont taste as good as my home grown,but millions of people cannot afford to buy farm grown and do not live where they can grow there own,,its a fact of life,you start limiting peoples food source and things will get ugly real fast.

 

[dichotomymom]

Amen to that Lorie. Some of the same people I see write in to our newspapers column about factory farming (and I'm not suggesting they are all wrong or that every practice is honorable) are the same people that will balk about their neighbors keeping chickens.

 

[BeardedLadyFarm]

Someone needs to post some videos of these clean, happy, non-offensive confinement operations.

btw, I think it's great to discuss where our food actually comes from. Most Americans don't ever ask the first question.

 

[rainplace]

 

[canada-goose]

Well, I can't say I approve of these places but I don't think they're always as bad as people say. Some of them, possibly most of them, are all right.

 

[Sir Birdaholic]

 

[1stepcloser]

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=undercover+chicken+factory&search_type=&aq=0&oq=undercover+chi

Too many links to post.