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WOW, HEChicken! Clearly he's feeling better, that's great news! I like the shower door idea because it's not glass. At first glance I thought it was a window and I just knew how long that would last around here. I will keep a look out for old shower doors, that's a great idea.

My 10 yo made a chicken shoe out of a foamie sticker, she really had a great idea and it stayed on until I took it off. It was a little flexible and slightly grippy. The bare foot slid around moreso than the shoed one. I'm wondering if I couldn't cut that stuff with my cricut and just make it a little better shape. This chick didn't need a shoe. Because it's kinda thick I think two shoes would be better even if they only needed one.
Oh no, that shower door IS glass. But its that tempered glass that makes it pretty shatter resistant. I found it on a trash pile years ago, when walking DS to school, and my first thought was that it would make a great cold frame top to get things started in the garden earlier. Well, I never got around to making the frame to go with it, so I've never used it for that but it has been in constant use ever since anyway! I have a little 2x4 run that I made from 1x2's and chicken wire years before I even started back into chickens, and DD used it to put her rabbit and guinea pig outside to get some green grass. Now that run works great for my chicks for the same purpose and the shower door fits over it perfectly to shield them from rain. It also fits nicely over my nursery in the coop, to keep the chicks in the nursery and the bigger birds out. In winter I use it as a solarium, and today it is leaning against my chick pen, as a wind-break for them! The amazing thing is, we've had hail storms - big ones that did lots of damage and broke other things left lying outside in my yard - but the shower door hasn't sustained so much as a chip, so I guess that tempered glass is pretty good stuff.

That little shoe for the chick is about the best idea I've ever seen. I agree they probably need one on each foot but yeah, what a terrific idea for any chick with crooked feet or toes. You have a pretty smart 10yo DD there!

I treated my birds with Wazine a few weeks back. I never did do the second treatment, I should get that done when I get back. Where did you get your ivermectin? Did you get it at Atwoods?
When I first saw the roundworms, I did a treatment with Wazine but I did have a problem with that due to the ducks. While chickens are happy to sip out of any bowl I put water down in, the ducks see a new bowl of water and can't wait to dive in and start splashing it around. I was out there trying to keep the ducks away while each chicken got a drink but with so many chickens its hard to keep track of who got it and who didn't. Then, the more I started researching, most people don't have anything favorable to say about Wazine anyway. I think it does do okay at treating roundworms, but it doesn't affect any of the other types of worms they can get. So - I started looking for something that would get them all, and the problem with that is administration, because some of the better wormers can't be put in the water. The Valbazen got the best reviews but has to be administered orally. One guy said you have someone else hold the chicken, then pull down on the wattles, squirt it in the mouth and immediately let go of the wattles so they can swallow without aspirating. Well, that just sounded like a big ordeal to me, when I'm talking about 50 birds and teenage kids who don't share my enthusiasm for the birds, so wouldn't have been willing "holders". Plus, keeping track of who has been dosed and who hasn't, catching the ones who don't like to be handled, and, inevitably, not letting go the wattles soon enough so they either aspirate, or the stuff all drips back out of their mouth. So - I wasn't favoring that one so much. When I heard about the Ivermectin, I read further, and learned that unlike the Valbazen that really does get them all, the Ivermectin does not get tapeworms. However they say that tapeworms in poultry are pretty rare anyway, so I was willing to take my chances that mine did not have tapeworm.

I did find Ivermectin online but before I had to pay for and wait for shipping, I decided to make a run to Atwoods and look for it. It was up front, not in the fridge where the Pen G is, that you were getting for your birds, but in the cabinet right next to the fridge. Oh wait - I wasn't at the Derby Atwoods - but, I'm sure they all store it somewhere similar. You only need 4cc of the Ivermectin to a gallon of water. What I did, since the bottle is an injectable, is I put a large gauge needle through the rubber and attached my syringe, drew up the cc's I needed, then twisted the syringe off the needle (leaving the needle through the rubber) and squirted it into the container I was using to measure out. I had to do multiple draws since I was using a small syringe, and I didn't want to puncture the rubber more than I had to. After drawing up 12cc, I filled 3 gallon containers with water, then emptied out my 5-gallon water fount, poured the Ivermectin in the bottom, and immediately poured the water in on top. It frothed up, almost like the Ivermectin was a mild detergent.

Oh - I did also remove any other sources of water so they all had no choice but to drink from that fount. The article I read said to administer for 2 days. She said she used to do 3 days but found that 2 is enough. I decided to do 2 days or until the waterer is empty. This afternoon will mark the end of the second day and there is still water in it but I'm guessing the level is getting low by now, so I think the quantity is going to work out about perfect.
 
I'm Happy Happy Happy! Talked to a local chicken friend, found out about an upcoming local farm swap! Yippee! It's in SE Colorado, I don't know if any of you are familiar with SE Colorado area, let's just say there are some good country folk there and many of them live on 4th and 5th generation farms, and some have had their breeding stock for several generations, some good genetics!
 
Kansas Prairie,
I have two incubators. I have a big GQF that I use in the spring when eggs are a plenty, and now I also have a "Mini Advance" made by Brinsea. I found in on the kansas poultry swap page. I have Cream legbars in it right now. It only holds, depending on which disc you have in the bottem either 7, or 12 eggs I believe.
The people that had it ended up getting a bigger bator, and sold this one to me. They had used it 1 time. I really like it. Once my rosecombs start laying in Jan. when I turn the lights on, I will be running non stop.

I love my GQF. Its big, holds up to 300 eggs, depending on what you have in there, but, I usually don't have that many eggs in there, unless I am hatching for the 4H kids. So a lot of energy goes to waste with it.

Lots of people use the stryofoam type,and do good with them, I never had any luck with them. Justa waste for me.

I think it depends on how many chicks you plan to hatch, where you have to put your incubator, and how much you want to spend. If you hope to sell chicks, and a lot of them, like danz does and some others, a larger bator would be best,

Oh, I know Brinsea does have coupons they offer, and you can use the coupon when they run specials. Oh, and they do have some larger bators, I think hawkeye has one that holds 20 eggs.

hawkeye~~~~BEST OF LUCK AT NATIONALS!!!!!! I know you will have a good time. I wish you could swing by here, I would get your boys washed up for you!! I wish I could have gone too, have to consentrate on next weekend!!
 
You guys are seriously making my hungry for potaot soup, I am having DH pick up what I need to make some tonight
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It sounds like everyone is having a bit of a better week despite the cold.
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Keep up all the great work, Hawkeye-- keep resting you are getting perkier Josie-- no more climbing and hauling
checoukan- I wish your sister lots of luck Everyone else whom I did not get to, I wish everyone a super safe and positive weekend. I know here it is time for me to stop being lazy and finish winter prep and build my 2nd brooder already geesh
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How am I ever gonna get more chicks lol
My chicks now are 3weeks last tuesday they are almost feathered and love it outside, I dont remember since it has been so long at what point can they stay out when it is not 70 or so?


Here is 2 of them just yesterday with their pretty feathering. They just get cabin fever being stuck indoors all day. Last week they were out all ay long while we had nice weather. Even on the cooler windy day they loved it. I wouldnt have them sleeping out there yet because I dont have their grow out pen assembled , another project for theis weekend, and with the weather suddenly cold I have kept them in. If the sun were out I wouldnt be as worried,,,ok yea Iwould I am a mom its my job,,, anyway any advice would be wonderful. I just have never brooded chicks in fall always spring..
 
HE Chicken, regarding the ivermectin in the water, is that the pour on? If so, how much do you use? Is there a withdrawal period for the eggs? Thanks.
 
Maidenwolf, I would keep them in the next couple of nights and then it is supposed to get warmer - at least in my area - you would want to check the weather forecast for your area. Here it is supposed to get down to 27 tonight but by next week the night-time lows will be in the 40's. By day I usually just play it by ear. If it seems warm - or if there is an area I can get them so they are in the sun and I can adequately block any cold winds, I will let them have some outside time from the time they are quite young. I just keep a close eye on them - they are pretty good at letting me know if they are too cold, as they get very loud, so if they indicate they are too cold, I bring them back in.

Oh Danz, I have another question for you. Its quite a few pages back now but I think you said you worm your turkeys monthly? Why is that? Are turkeys more susceptible to worms than other types of poultry? Or do you just worm everyone monthly?

I had to laugh at Ned this morning. Madge was outside the coop calling. He was inside the coop eating. I mean, non-stop stuffing his face. Her calls of "Where are you? Where are you?" got so insistent that I guess he felt compelled to answer but wasn't willing to stop eating to do it so he kept eating, and his calls of "In here, in here" were muffled because his face was in the feeder and his mouth was full. Ever hear a turkey talking with its mouth full? You'd laugh too!
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Ivomec pour on is oil based, so since oil does not mix with water, you need to use the ivomec, (or a generic ivomec) injectable. Those injectables are water based, and so will mix well in your water.
 
HE Chicken, regarding the ivermectin in the water, is that the pour on? If so, how much do you use? Is there a withdrawal period for the eggs? Thanks.

No, the pour-on is oily so it won't mix with the water. You need to use the injectable. It is 4cc per gallon of water, with no withdrawal period and no need to redose after 10 or 14 days.
 
Hechicken, had you thought about getting a meat maker type feed to help him put his weight back on. It is used to grow meat chickens. The kids use it to feed their broiler ckicks for fair. I think it runs like 22% protein, or more. I keep some on hand just to feed someone who needs a little extra boost, or if not feeling well, to keep the weight on. I will go look at the tag on the bag, and let you know what it says.
 

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