Consolidated Kansas

[RoosterLew]

Danz - I can't keep them in my fridge and sell at the farmers market - LOL
We plan on selling at a couple of Local Markets and I was wondering how to keep the eggs cool.

Washing is a requirement by Kansas Egg law, I would not worry, but like I said I did see someone get in trouble for it last summer!

 

[milomac]

Wichita folks do you know if I need to call the post office about my chicks that are being shipped on April 3rd? If I do need to call would I call the local substation or the main one at the airport? Or will they just call me when they come in? I am not sure how it all works since it is my first time dealing with shipped chicks.

hey tnt you should call your local branch to be on safe side ,however if you gave your telephone number when you ordered chicks the GMF (at the airport) will notify you when they get there and give you the option of coming to get them or to send to your branch the next day.. I ordered chicks from Ideal last year and the day they were shipped I got a call they were in at 6;00 THAT EVENING, LESS THAN 12 HOURS GOODLUCK

 

[JosieChick]

Phew, I am yet again a million miles behind you guys! Sigh.

Hope everyone is well. We had a bit of a disaster here last night. I left the house at 6 PM to meet DH to pick up a couple dressers at his parents and to pick Lucie up at the clinic who had her leg amputated yesterday. Everything went really well with Lucie's surgery and she is doing very well at home. She even walked this morning with just a little sling support which is impressive. I think she will do really well once she is healed up.

Anyway, back to the disaster. Got home at 8:30 and we ate dinner, got the dog settled into her crate and at 9:30 I went out to hay the horses for the night. The gate was hanging wide open and the horses were GONE! In a frenzy DH and I started walking around with halters and buckets of grain calling them. We followed their hoof prints on the road north for about a mile and then DH went back for his car to start driving. We called the Sheriff to report them missing and called his parents who came out with spotlights. After about 35 minutes of me walking with grain, DH and his parents driving with spot lights and no sign of them the three non horse folks were ready to call it quits. So I told them they could stop looking but I was going to keep looking until I found them. I lost their trail heading east on the road and assume they left the road and went into a field. So I started driving around with my car and spot light. I tried to be very careful to only shine the light into fields and clicked it off when I drove near folks houses but I alerted one of the neighbors who happens to be a police officer and he chased me back to the house in his truck thinking I was a robber only to find a sobbing pregnant girl who had lost her horses! So he went back to his house gathered supplies and helped us start looking! He also recruited a sheriff friend who was on duty to help and DH made a sign to put out front of the house. Luckily enough another neighbor heard their dogs going nuts and went out to see our horses in their yard! Phew, we went up and gathered them up and I walked them two miles back to the house and we finally got to bed at 2 AM. We had snaps on the gate but now there are snaps and new chains around the posts with pad locks! If they get out of that I don't know what to do with them!!!

Danz- Are you sure one of those darling goslings are grey? They both look white to me? I will post pics of my grey babies later tonight when they were goslings for you to compare.

 

[michelleml]

Just a couple pictures I took yesterday. First my baby Sebbies so far: I have one more pipped today.

And just for fun my lavender and lemon cuckoo babies.

I love the lavender ones

Hi everyone! I'm new to BYC and glad to find a Kansas group. I'm new to chickens. We recently moved about 5 miles east of Ellinwood and am so glad to finally be back out in the country. I look forward to getting to know you all and learn all I can.

Phew, I am yet again a million miles behind you guys! Sigh.

Hope everyone is well. We had a bit of a disaster here last night. I left the house at 6 PM to meet DH to pick up a couple dressers at his parents and to pick Lucie up at the clinic who had her leg amputated yesterday. Everything went really well with Lucie's surgery and she is doing very well at home. She even walked this morning with just a little sling support which is impressive. I think she will do really well once she is healed up.

Anyway, back to the disaster. Got home at 8:30 and we ate dinner, got the dog settled into her crate and at 9:30 I went out to hay the horses for the night. The gate was hanging wide open and the horses were GONE! In a frenzy DH and I started walking around with halters and buckets of grain calling them. We followed their hoof prints on the road north for about a mile and then DH went back for his car to start driving. We called the Sheriff to report them missing and called his parents who came out with spotlights. After about 35 minutes of me walking with grain, DH and his parents driving with spot lights and no sign of them the three non horse folks were ready to call it quits. So I told them they could stop looking but I was going to keep looking until I found them. I lost their trail heading east on the road and assume they left the road and went into a field. So I started driving around with my car and spot light. I tried to be very careful to only shine the light into fields and clicked it off when I drove near folks houses but I alerted one of the neighbors who happens to be a police officer and he chased me back to the house in his truck thinking I was a robber only to find a sobbing pregnant girl who had lost her horses! So he went back to his house gathered supplies and helped us start looking! He also recruited a sheriff friend who was on duty to help and DH made a sign to put out front of the house. Luckily enough another neighbor heard their dogs going nuts and went out to see our horses in their yard! Phew, we went up and gathered them up and I walked them two miles back to the house and we finally got to bed at 2 AM. We had snaps on the gate but now there are snaps and new chains around the posts with pad locks! If they get out of that I don't know what to do with them!!!

Danz- Are you sure one of those darling goslings are grey? They both look white to me? I will post pics of my grey babies later tonight when they were goslings for you to compare.

So glad you found them and they are all safe.

It was a beautiful day so i decided to take my chicks out for about 30 min they ran around happy but if i walked away they chirped very loud for me to come back . I hope It's okay to take them out this early they are 3 wks already.
Mrs Broody pants egg pepped last night about 10:30 but still no progress it did start making noise about 10am and is still rocking inside. When should i worry?. I have it in the bator with other eggs that are not ready to hatch for another 2 wks.

 

[chicken danz]

Hi everyone! I'm new to BYC and glad to find a Kansas group. I'm new to chickens. We recently moved about 5 miles east of Ellinwood and am so glad to finally be back out in the country. I look forward to getting to know you all and learn all I can.

Welcome!!!! Join in and tell us about your chickens,your plans and anything else you want to discuss. We are very informal here.

Hello fellow Kansans.

Figured I'll jump in with both feet to join the Kansas group here after reading lots of the posts for months in lurkdom. DH and I just bought a small acreage and converted a horse stall into a chicken coop last August. He owns a landscaping business and we have 2 young kids. DH went to a very small town and bought an entire flock from someone who was moving away but couldn't take the flock with her so we started with a few different breeds of chickens. Then I got bit by the chicken math.

I hatched some barnyard mix in November and then again last week. I also ordered 25 chicks from Meyer. My kids love the chickies, especially my son. It is a stress relief for me to tend to the chickens and see them do the chicken things after a long work day.

Hoping to meet some new friends with chickens because most of my coworkers don't have chickens. Sometimes a girl just needs to mingle with some chicken friends.

Here are the chicks from Meyer. Sorry for the blurry pic. I took it with my cell phone.

Holy cow I am not even gonna try to catch up. The last time I read on here was page 2158. lol.

I hope everyone is doing well! What a gorgeous day outside!! Thanking the Lord that winter is (most likely) finally past!!! My flowers are blooming. Makes me happy

I gave back the three sick chickens and got my money back. He wasn't offended and treated me fairly. *Yay!*

Ironically, they didn't lay any eggs, except 2 on the day I took them back! lol They were the biggest chicken eggs I had ever seen! I threw one away because it had a lot of poop on it, but it was quite a bit bigger than the other one I kept, which was so large that the egg carton couldn't shut all the way! 0_0 lol

Anyway, my chickens are healthy and happy and laying 3-5 eggs each day. Perfect for our family of 3.

Glad you got your money back and the guy was decent about it.

Greetings to all you new fellow chicken lovers

!!! So nice to have you here -- so true, you really need to have friends you can talk "chicken" with, without getting the dazed and confused look! Hee hee.

On a much gloomier note, we had a terrible chicken tragedy. I lost my best (naturally) Aloha hen to a freak pen accident involving my poor, tender-hearted 10 year old son. His 12 year old sister was partially at fault for refusing to follow protocol in having two there to prevent just such an accident. He didn't notice Nicoletta had come to join him and he turned loose of the pen to let it fall back into place, at the same time Nicoletta decided to dash in and have a scratch in the fresh bedding. Those kids just cried their little eyes out. I just explained that everyone makes mistakes and that's just how we learn. I told them they will never have heavy bookshelves that aren't anchored to the wall because they will already know what can happen, if their child decides to climb it. Better to lose a chicken, even a much loved chicken, than a child in later years. Poor kids, I hurt so badly for them, I forgot to hurt about losing my hen. She was a very sweet and chatty bird, I'm going to miss her terribly. I'm thankful she didn't suffer for her sake and the kids. What a disaster.

I absolutely hate losing birds.

That's so sad. I really feel sorry for the kids.

Adorable! The geese are sooooo cute!
They think I'm their Mom already!

I don't wash my eggs, I'm not down with letting in bacteria by removing the bloom. I suppose if I were selling them at a markey I probably would. I do some local selling here-- nothing significant and I NEVER wash my eggs for anyone. I will rub off anything that is yucky. But for the most part, the eggs just aren't that dirty and no reason to encourage bacteria. I know Danz washes her eggs-- but I believe the people buying her eggs are using them immediately.
I wash dirty eggs in warm water and Oxine. If they are clean they don't get washed. No reason to wash a perfectly safe egg. To heck with the law. That is lame.

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I've used an almost identical product in bins as puppy training pads. I got them from my ex BIL who is a doctor and used them under his patients. I am out of them now though.

Danz - I can't keep them in my fridge and sell at the farmers market - LOL
We plan on selling at a couple of Local Markets and I was wondering how to keep the eggs cool.

Washing is a requirement by Kansas Egg law, I would not worry, but like I said I did see someone get in trouble for it last summer!

I have seen people at a farmers market with their eggs in a normal cooler. I assume that they were chilled before hand cause their was no ice in it and it was sitting in the back of a pickup truck. They were asking a ridiculous price for them so maybe they were adding in the extra time it took to follow the law.
If your eggs are clean no one can tell if they've been washed or not. They keep longer if they aren't washed. I can see why I don't bother with farmer's markets for sure. I don't see that eggs should be any different than any other fresh produce. You don't have to have your fruits or veggies graded or examined by the state so neither should you need to do so with your eggs. I'm sorry, but it just seems like another ridiculous waste of tax payers money, policing a farmer's market. Isn't the whole point to be able to buy fresh produce straight off the farm??
JosieChick

Phew, I am yet again a million miles behind you guys! Sigh.

Hope everyone is well. We had a bit of a disaster here last night. I left the house at 6 PM to meet DH to pick up a couple dressers at his parents and to pick Lucie up at the clinic who had her leg amputated yesterday. Everything went really well with Lucie's surgery and she is doing very well at home. She even walked this morning with just a little sling support which is impressive. I think she will do really well once she is healed up.

Anyway, back to the disaster. Got home at 8:30 and we ate dinner, got the dog settled into her crate and at 9:30 I went out to hay the horses for the night. The gate was hanging wide open and the horses were GONE! In a frenzy DH and I started walking around with halters and buckets of grain calling them. We followed their hoof prints on the road north for about a mile and then DH went back for his car to start driving. We called the Sheriff to report them missing and called his parents who came out with spotlights. After about 35 minutes of me walking with grain, DH and his parents driving with spot lights and no sign of them the three non horse folks were ready to call it quits. So I told them they could stop looking but I was going to keep looking until I found them. I lost their trail heading east on the road and assume they left the road and went into a field. So I started driving around with my car and spot light. I tried to be very careful to only shine the light into fields and clicked it off when I drove near folks houses but I alerted one of the neighbors who happens to be a police officer and he chased me back to the house in his truck thinking I was a robber only to find a sobbing pregnant girl who had lost her horses! So he went back to his house gathered supplies and helped us start looking! He also recruited a sheriff friend who was on duty to help and DH made a sign to put out front of the house. Luckily enough another neighbor heard their dogs going nuts and went out to see our horses in their yard! Phew, we went up and gathered them up and I walked them two miles back to the house and we finally got to bed at 2 AM. We had snaps on the gate but now there are snaps and new chains around the posts with pad locks! If they get out of that I don't know what to do with them!!!

Danz- Are you sure one of those darling goslings are grey? They both look white to me? I will post pics of my grey babies later tonight when they were goslings for you to compare.

They look lighter now that they are really dry. One has a lot more gray on it than the other. I'm very concerned about the one that is pipped. It had it's beak out a hole and seems to be drying up but the lining still has blood in it. I'm not sure how to keep it from dying in the shell when I know it's not quite ready. I sure didn't have problems last year with them like I have so far this year.
I'm so glad you found your horses. Silly goons have a brand new pen and are just not satisfied with staying home. I had to put carribeaners on some of my pens to assure they stayed latched. Maybe you need combination locks for your horses.
I saw my Bourbon Red breed one of the girls today. So I hope the blue slate learned from him. I haven't see him actually breed one yet ...I just hope he has.
I ran to town to deliver eggs and take care of getting the title and tags on the new car. It had been titled in Mo so I had to have it inspected which took forever. Then I went to the treasurers office. I can see why there are so many complaints about the new system. It kept rejecting everything. First it rejected the tag because it already showed my old car had been transferred as salvage to the insurance company. Then I discovered that Missouri doesn't issue a new title and my title was missing a lein release from the original buyer. I had forgotten my cell phone but the tag office let me call the dealer. He said he thought he had sent it. He did however check the file and noticed he missed sending it. So he said he would mail it. I reminded him there was no time to do that that it had to be done by the end of the month so he finally agreed to fax it to the tag office.
Once that was done it got all messed up on charging sales tax etc but finally after an hour and a half I was able to walk out with my old tag and the car registered. I was getting nervous because I knew I had to be back home for a chicken appointment. I had to skip seeing my Dad but then once I got home I got a call and the appointment got cancelled anyway. So I finished feeding and watering and it was 6:30 by then. My days go so fast!!! And I got nothing done I wanted to.
Michelleml, give it at least 24 hours. Check your humidity and wait!!

 

[sunflowerparrot]

Wichita folks do you know if I need to call the post office about my chicks that are being shipped on April 3rd? If I do need to call would I call the local substation or the main one at the airport? Or will they just call me when they come in? I am not sure how it all works since it is my first time dealing with shipped chicks.

My experience as well as others I know that have had chicks shipped is the post office will call you and tell you they are in.. My post office here in Winfield calls me about 7 in the morning and tells me I have a package that is peeping lol

 

[chicken danz]

Oh Hechicken, all my multis didn't show up. That blue thing is the biggest rubbermaid type bins I can find. I have a couple of them I use for brooding in the house. The work very well and give quite a bit of room for lots of chicks. I meant to mention as well those were Swedish flower hen chicks in with the geese. I now have them in a smaller bin alone but it won't last long. They are already pretty big babies.

 

[HEChicken]

hey tnt you should call your local branch to be on safe side ,however if you gave your telephone number when you ordered chicks the GMF (at the airport) will notify you when they get there and give you the option of coming to get them or to send to your branch the next day.. I ordered chicks from Ideal last year and the day they were shipped I got a call they were in at 6;00 THAT EVENING, LESS THAN 12 HOURS GOODLUCK

That's great to hear about Ideal. I have chicks coming from there in a couple of weeks.

Anyway, back to the disaster. Got home at 8:30 and we ate dinner, got the dog settled into her crate and at 9:30 I went out to hay the horses for the night. The gate was hanging wide open and the horses were GONE! In a frenzy DH and I started walking around with halters and buckets of grain calling them. We followed their hoof prints on the road north for about a mile and then DH went back for his car to start driving. We called the Sheriff to report them missing and called his parents who came out with spotlights. After about 35 minutes of me walking with grain, DH and his parents driving with spot lights and no sign of them the three non horse folks were ready to call it quits. So I told them they could stop looking but I was going to keep looking until I found them. I lost their trail heading east on the road and assume they left the road and went into a field. So I started driving around with my car and spot light. I tried to be very careful to only shine the light into fields and clicked it off when I drove near folks houses but I alerted one of the neighbors who happens to be a police officer and he chased me back to the house in his truck thinking I was a robber only to find a sobbing pregnant girl who had lost her horses! So he went back to his house gathered supplies and helped us start looking! He also recruited a sheriff friend who was on duty to help and DH made a sign to put out front of the house. Luckily enough another neighbor heard their dogs going nuts and went out to see our horses in their yard! Phew, we went up and gathered them up and I walked them two miles back to the house and we finally got to bed at 2 AM. We had snaps on the gate but now there are snaps and new chains around the posts with pad locks! If they get out of that I don't know what to do with them!!!

So glad you got them home safely before they got injured or caused an accident. Wow - what escape artists they are! I'm really glad to hear Lucie's surgery went so well and she is already walking a little by herself. Animals are amazing how fast they adapt.

Danz, your post didn't multi about the egg washing but I was going to say "Well said!!!"

Rooster, your post didn't multi either but I was going to suggest a large cooler to keep the eggs in. If they've come out of the refrigerator, they should stay 45 or below for a day in a cooler, I would think.

 

[RoosterLew]

And then there were 5! Yes we had to go to the"O" store the night after a new batch of babies came in. See the problem is the brooder box is just too big and looks empty!

Look !!! Look!!! They are tearing up that FF now!
Actually don't think we have any Ferment going yet. Just finally found some UP/ACV today. Bought a small bottle of it & a gallon of plain ACV to make more with.

 

[Frizzled Pink]

(B) (i) The producer owns more than 50 hens but fewer than 250 hens;
(ii) eggs are washed and clean;
(iii) eggs are prepackaged and labeled as ungraded with the name and address of the producer;
(iv) cartons are not reused unless all brand markings and other identification is obliterated and the carton is free of foreign material;
(v) sales are to consumers only; and
(vi) eggs are maintained at a temperature of 45° Fahrenheit or below.

You pretty much got it right, but you forgot the "Ungraded" labeling.
We did have someone get "warned" at a local farmers market for that, and dirty eggs. She put up the "cleaning eggs is bad for them" argument - but lost, LOL.
I believe she was also the one with Eggs Labeled "Organic" - but had no certification.


Question: What does everyone use to maintain the 45 deg?

***fyi, while i am the first to be aggravated at anyone using the "organic" wording falsely as we bust our tuckuses here to maintain those standards, there are many many different levels as to "organic" requirements and you can fall under the organic heading without having full USDA certification so i believe your statement above is a bit misleading to any who may not have studied what the requirements are for each level

That is disgusting that she didnt clean the eggs!!!!! My people would never buy that lol!

I am with Hawkeye on this, you can wipe them off with a dry cloth, but by using water you are removing the eggs natural protective bloom and allowing any outside bacteria to enter the egg when you wash it, and reduce the shelf life of the egg by doing so, however our customers always get the best looking eggs and the cruddy looking ones are for us and we know to wash them only immediately before use (after making sure they are not "floaters" LOL)