Consolidated Kansas

[sharol]

Danz, you will get a kick out of this.

Yesterday when the vet came out to euthanize my dog, he brought his assistant with him. She was looking at the chickens and asked if Marlena's (the BO) little dark chicks (blue copper Marans) were going to turn buff like their mother. After I stopped laughing, I told her what they were and that Marlena had hatched them but not laid them. She said, that was a relief. That she didn't think chicks usually got lighter as they got older.

 

[lizzyGSR]

I noticed when my goose was on baytril that it took a while but it must have some residual effects because he continued to improve in the next week or so. If picking off that scab helps I'd do it again.
Please be careful attempting to load those horses alone. We don't want anything to happen to your little passenger!!

After today's dose, I plan on waiting at least a week to see how she does. I noticed this morning that she went to the FOOD bowl first this morning, rather than directly to the water bowl like she had been doing. Small sign of improvement if you ask me! I thought about picking the scab off again, but the old scab was thick, stiff, and just yucky. The new scab is much thinner and more difficult to get ahold of. I think I'm just gonna wait and see this time around.

I will do my best to be careful with the horses. The first horse (the bigger of the two) loads really well. He just doesn't stand real still for me to load the other horse beside him (constantly putting his hindquarters in the way. He is the dominant horse, so the other one is cautious when he puts himself in the way). I load them facing backwards because the horse who doesn't ride well seems to prefer to ride that way. The trailer is plenty big for me to move around in there, as long as I don't try to get between/behind the horses. I've had enough accidents with my one horse in the trailer that I try to be incredibly cautious with the trailer and take my time. No hurrying for me! It'll just be more of a challenge because I don't tie the second (scared) horse unless the horse door is closed. I usually have a second person working the gates. When I do it myself, I will just have to make sure that the people door is unlocked and will just have to put her in the trailer, close the horse gate, and then maneuver her into position and tie her up. The last time I loaded her, I had help, but it only took about 10 minutes to load both horses. In a different trailer, it used to take 2 hours to get my scared horse to go in and stay in EACH TIME. I'll definitely take the 10 minute load time over the 2 hour one.

 

[mamau]

Sorry showing my newbie status, how long can the eggs stay in the nests before you can't eat them. Also the plastic Easter eggs seems to have worked. Finding more in the nests today. Yea!

 

[HEChicken]

My 2 broody hens are no good. They break eggs left and right. I found yucky mess in their nest boxes! Don't know if the rest of the eggs are contaminated or not. If it is not because the storage room is hot, I would have moved them to it. They take up 2 of my nest boxes!! I will let them sit for now unless the eggs start smelling. In that case, I'll just toss them. If not, they can sit on them for another week and some days. If they don't hatch, I'll toss them then.

I have that problem too, when I let the hens brood in the main coop. I think the other hens squeezing in to lay their eggs daily is what does it. When I am able to segregate the hens to a place of their own to brood, I never have that problem. The work around I've been doing the past couple of months is I incubate the eggs myself inside, and then after the chicks hatch, I slip them under the hen at night, after she's been sitting for several weeks. That has been working really well for me. This last time, I took the eggs after the first one had pipped and put all the eggs under the broody hen and let them hatch under her. That worked great too.

Sorry showing my newbie status, how long can the eggs stay in the nests before you can't eat them. Also the plastic Easter eggs seems to have worked. Finding more in the nests today. Yea!

They can last a long while. Two years ago we had a summer that had 55 days that were in the triple digits, and I was working long hours at the time and unable to collect eggs until evening. I never had a bad egg, despite the high temps and some of those eggs had been sitting in the nest close to 12 hours.

 

[HEChicken]

Oh Lizzy, I meant to say..... it seems dangerous to me for you to be loading a difficult-to-load horse and hauling some distance in a truck with fully loaded trailer, when you are entirely comfortable doing so - while being at the stage of pregnancy you are. I bet the horses can wait until Friday to get the shots. It also wouldn't hurt to ask the vet if you can pick up the rabies vaccine and self-administer. You've given a horse a shot before right? They are about the easiest animals in the world to give a shot to, because they barely flinch when the needle goes in. If you just give a couple of thumps to the muscle with your fist first, they are used to you being in the area and on the third "thump" you instead punch the needle into the skin and depress the plunger. It takes all of 3 seconds. The only thing I don't know is if a vet is allowed to sell you the rabies vaccine. I have a feeling it is one of those that by law has to be administered by a vet. In that case, I really think you're better off waiting until Friday. The donkey had to have been bitten by a rabid animal and the chances are, whatever bit it has already died of the rabies and is no longer around to be a threat to your horses.

 

[mamau]

Cool. Nice to know, the kids want to collect but have to wait till after school. They will be happy

 

[Trish44]

Oh Lizzy, I meant to say..... it seems dangerous to me for you to be loading a difficult-to-load horse and hauling some distance in a truck with fully loaded trailer, when you are entirely comfortable doing so - while being at the stage of pregnancy you are. I bet the horses can wait until Friday to get the shots. It also wouldn't hurt to ask the vet if you can pick up the rabies vaccine and self-administer. You've given a horse a shot before right? They are about the easiest animals in the world to give a shot to, because they barely flinch when the needle goes in. If you just give a couple of thumps to the muscle with your fist first, they are used to you being in the area and on the third "thump" you instead punch the needle into the skin and depress the plunger. It takes all of 3 seconds. The only thing I don't know is if a vet is allowed to sell you the rabies vaccine. I have a feeling it is one of those that by law has to be administered by a vet. In that case, I really think you're better off waiting until Friday. The donkey had to have been bitten by a rabid animal and the chances are, whatever bit it has already died of the rabies and is no longer around to be a threat to your horses.

HEChicken I don't know about horses, but with rabies shots & dogs in Kansas they have to be given by a licensed Vet & you can't even buy the vaccine. I'll bet it's the same for horses, but I wouldn't know for sure without checking. I just read that it's illegal to ship rabies vaccine to any individual in Kansas.

 

[milomac]

Ash there are several issues I wanted to respond today, first you do not have to gather eggs every day. If an egg can lay in a nest for 7 to 10 days before a hen starts to set it will last for several days and not affect its viability. We all look forward to gathering each days because we are all little kids at heart but not needed. Also hens break eggs when setting for a lot of reasons, and I also feel that competion from other hens is primary culprit, but the size of nesting box is also a biggie, for large hens they need a large area. I seldom leave a broody in the nesting box I try to move her to a rabbit hutch where she is all alone. Like He Chicken it is not uncommon to take eggs from an incubator to place under a hen, some hens only set for 3 days before they hatch. On another note if I place a broody in the rabbit hutch and she will not take the nest it is not uncommon for her to break broody in 4 to 5 days and I can just turn her back out.

 

[lizzyGSR]

Oh Lizzy, I meant to say..... it seems dangerous to me for you to be loading a difficult-to-load horse and hauling some distance in a truck with fully loaded trailer, when you are entirely comfortable doing so - while being at the stage of pregnancy you are. I bet the horses can wait until Friday to get the shots. It also wouldn't hurt to ask the vet if you can pick up the rabies vaccine and self-administer. You've given a horse a shot before right? They are about the easiest animals in the world to give a shot to, because they barely flinch when the needle goes in. If you just give a couple of thumps to the muscle with your fist first, they are used to you being in the area and on the third "thump" you instead punch the needle into the skin and depress the plunger. It takes all of 3 seconds. The only thing I don't know is if a vet is allowed to sell you the rabies vaccine. I have a feeling it is one of those that by law has to be administered by a vet. In that case, I really think you're better off waiting until Friday. The donkey had to have been bitten by a rabid animal and the chances are, whatever bit it has already died of the rabies and is no longer around to be a threat to your horses.

Yes, I've given shots to my horses before, but this is one that state law requires be done by a vet. My biggest concern with waiting till Friday is... where there's one rabid animal running around, there are likely more. My horses are precious to me. Not only do I not want to risk their lives on getting bit by a rabid animal, but I also don't want to be around a rabid animal, especially without knowing they are rabid (horses get "dumb rabies", which means that they don't exhibit the aggressive behavior typically associated with a rabid animal - they just act "different" or "off"). While I appreciate your concern, I think this is one situation where I really need to get it done ASAP. I am capable of loading the horses and driving the truck and trailer by myself. It's just that I prefer not to. Trust me, I will take every precaution possible.

HEChicken I don't know about horses, but with rabies shots & dogs in Kansas they have to be given by a licensed Vet & you can't even buy the vaccine. I'll bet it's the same for horses, but I wouldn't know for sure without checking. I just read that it's illegal to ship rabies vaccine to any individual in Kansas.

You are correct. State law requires the shot be administered by a vet.

 

[maidenwolfx80]

Thanks Danz!