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Justin, don't see why you can't use your shed as a 4th wall- I've seen a lot of people do something similar like that on here. The only problem I can see with that would be getting it to meet up exactly with no gaps or holes to fill in later. But it might just work out fine.

Danz, so funny! My kids can be a lot of fun, for sure. But angels they are not. hehe!! My little girl is often the instigator in a lot of arguments between the 3 of them. She picks on the oldest and the middle- even though she is the youngest and so much smaller than them AND a girl. I often have to remind my boys never to hit girls. ---well, particularly her. They've never hit other kids and they are really well behaved otherwise. They respect adults and for the most part can be good. They can also give me a run for my money.
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I grew up with very strict parents and rules and chores, and my kids are experiencing the same joys (or woes) I had when I was a kid! LOL!!! My neighbor has girls who talk back to her all the time and it just angers me that she lets them get away with it- or laughs it off. I don't think it's funny, not one bit.

Ivy- my turkey is definitely starting to make turkey sounds! It's so exciting to hear her make noises other than cheeping. She's getting so much bigger too! But still- for her being like 4 or 5 months old- she has no waddle things or whatever you call them coming off her nose or under her neck. So I'm still assuming she's a SHE. She did finally grow "bumps" - little flesh growths on her nose, but they are small and they don't seem like they are growing.
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Not really sure how turkey's grow. She lost a TON of feathers in the last couple of days. It was crazy! Her little pen looked like something got ahold of her. All of her white feathers are coming out. She keeps getting more of those black banded feathers in. She's looking prettier every day- well, except for the feather explosion she had the last few days where a lot fell out- or she pulled them out??? She is always grooming herself.
 
Well i know you folks aren't pigeon or Quail fanciers, but this is Kansas and I live in this state so I post here. Anyhow tried for two weeks t get a pair of red golden pheasants sold had only one contact. So I ended up trading for 28 roller pigeons now I have 40 rollers
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I also tried for about a month now to get rid of a Muscovy drake no one wanted him so I traded him for two Gambel Quail
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SCORE!
Now I just have to get rid of a Silver Pheasant male & maybe a hen:confused:

Oh and three Show King Pigeons
 
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White feathers with black edges? She is probably royal palm or at least part royal palm. Those are my favorites. I think they are so pretty. It sure sounds like "it" is a "she."

I'm with you on teaching kids to respect their parents. Thankfully my kids never did test me as much as what I see other kids doing, and perhaps that was because I felt it was an important issue from the very start. Kids need boundaries, and when they don't know where those boundaries are, they test until they find them. I think I did okay with my kids. One is finishing his pre-med right now as well as nuclear engineering and is the top of his class, and the other just graduated high school with honors and is just starting college going for a mechanical engineering degree. They are great kids and I am very proud of them. I also MISS THEM SO MUCH since they are in college!
 
Most kids test their parents because they aren't spanked when they do bad. I never tested my Dad but once got my rear spanked never did it again. Thats what is wrong with some kids they need that and no days you spank your kid BAM! Child abuse n
 
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That's when I haul them off to the bathroom- make sure no one else is in there.
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Otherwise, you're right, you can't spank in public. We were eating out last week and I had to do that to my youngest for deciding she wanted to scream because I was not going to get a soda with her meal. But it doesn't work if someone is in there, or you make a big show of dragging them in there. I use 'stealth mode' with a smile on my face and a calm walk when I drag a kid to the bathroom. ha!

Ivy- agreed, kids do need boundaries! Unfortunately, something has happened to these parents and they want to be FRIENDS with their kids...
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They don't want their kids to 'hate' them. Well, I say, too darned bad. They are raising monsters. There is a kid down the road that I limit the time my oldest can play with this child. The kid talks back, thinks that whatever she asks for, she gets... on and on. I over heard her telling my son that his mom (me) was "Mean!". It was right after I told her she was CRAZY if she thought I was going to put up with her telling me what to do and she could decide to get a better attitude or go home. I used my 'scary mom voice' on her. If she told her mom, I didn't get a phone call about it. But I'd have been happy to tell her mom what her kid said to me. Sounds like you did a great job with your kids! Congrats on your HS student graduating with honors! My goal is to do my best to raise my kids to respect everyone and to teach them to do the best they can. Hopefully in several more years I'll be proudly saying something similar as you are!
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I moved my wild baby turkeys out to the chicken tractor last night. I finally decided it had cooled enough they should be ok. I sure hope I was right. I was just really tired of having the smell of turkeys in the house. They need much bigger quarters but I need to move some birds and get some pens built before that happens. They weren't at all happy with their new accommodations. I guess it would be pretty scary to see the outside for the first time when you are used to being in a bin in the house.
In a couple more days I should be down to just one incubator and one hatcher operating. I am so ready! Maybe by January I will be ready to start hatching a lot again.
 
I am really curious to see a good psych study done on the tail end of gen x (me) and gen y. People my age and younger seem to be failing at life in general. You can see it in our politicians even. A whole generation of children being raised by grand parents -- a generation of people with no responsibility. And I would like to know what the common cause might be.

Oh well, my son is well behaved and polite for 10. We have a pretty good understanding, no back talk or disrespect. But oh boy is he mad at me! Weather turned nice again and off went the tv
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He doesn't understand why I insist kids get a chance to get bored, being bored leads to being inventive imho.
 

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