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Candace-Oh my! I LOVE your nubians! We raise a variety of goats, but the nubians are my favorites. I love to watch them run with their big frosted ears flopping all over the place. I can't help but laugh when I see one of our does that is very preggers running and flopping back and forth! Your easter egger roos are beautiful! I raise pure ameraucanas, but they certainly aren't any prettier than those EE's. I guess you really do go infor the unusual varieties. Those are all so pretty! Also, I had no idea the GP's would eat HAY! I've NEVER seen ours do that! Maybe it's because our primarily patrol the borders of the pen, but aren't necessarily in the pen with the goats.

Love your turkeys. I'm thinking I might want to get a mature pair of royal palms. We've had turkeys off and on, and when we did they always called the wild turkeys in during the springtime. I love watching the wild ones come up in our yard to check out the domestics. We hunt turkeys in the spring, but never in the yard. We always go out to the cornfields to hunt.

My sis has some ducks. She swears hers are the BEST fly eaters. I've never raised any ducks. Maybe it would be a good thing. My sis, Checoukan on BYC raises goats, too. She has mostly boers and nubian. Thanks for all the pics, Candace!

Trish-Glad you were able to get the panels cut. They are pretty tuff to cut, aren't they! The eye bolt thing sounds good, too, but I tell ya, most eye bolts are harder to spread or bend than any cattle panel. Really, bending a large hinge is pretty easy. I've done it with just a hammer or a pair of pliars and it works great. Where the eye bolts have worked well for me is for a latch. I put one eye bolt above and one below one of the cross pieces where you want to fasten the gate. Then you use a straight bolt, or whatever you have got to put through both eye bolts to secure the gate behind it. It really does work well. I guess you can tell I LOVE to improvise! Another way to fasten the gate is simply to take a piece of wood and fasten it with a screw in the middle so that you can turn it up or 90 degrees to catch the gate behind it. Many of your old barns and sheds had latches like this. It is quick and simple.

If you need to cut a section of the wire out in order for the bigger hens to get through, be very careful about it. It doesn't take much of that in order to make the hole so big that the pups can get through. "IF" that happens, you can take some baling wire and close the hole just enough that the hens can get through and the dogs cannot.

Good luck with it. I sure hope it works for you! Now it's time for me to get a few hour sleep so I can get up and get something done on my brooders I want to build! G'Night, all! (I need a sleepy, yawning smiley here!)
 
I wish somebody from Wichita was going to get some of the pullets & I would have you get me a couple & I would come get them. But I understand about the gas.

I'm still considering it. The trip just to get the pullets themselves isn't worth it, but if I make a day of it, I may still do it. I wonder when we have to decide and pre-order in order not to miss out altogether?
 
Candace-Oh my! I LOVE your nubians! We raise a variety of goats, but the nubians are my favorites. I love to watch them run with their big frosted ears flopping all over the place. I can't help but laugh when I see one of our does that is very preggers running and flopping back and forth! Your easter egger roos are beautiful! I raise pure ameraucanas, but they certainly aren't any prettier than those EE's. I guess you really do go infor the unusual varieties. Those are all so pretty! Also, I had no idea the GP's would eat HAY! I've NEVER seen ours do that! Maybe it's because our primarily patrol the borders of the pen, but aren't necessarily in the pen with the goats.

Thanks....That was a pic I caught probably, yeah, about 10 years ago!
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Can't believe it's been that long, but that's Tori. Sister to Denalie, and he's 10 now. Man alive how time flies!
I tell you honestly I the doeling in the pic is long gone, the doe was my herd queen original. I miss her so much, its hard to believe it's been that long! But, I have two of her granddaughers who are; daughters from a set of Twins I lost 2 years ago; they are 4 now. My heart breaks thinking on it; but time goes on. I have to do site updates and get better pics up; who is still here etc. But I am looking for a few more Nubians. I mainly have angoras, with Nubians mainly as our milkers. I like that the angoras give me a product so I don't have to butcher them for it. I eat goat, don't get me wrong; but we used to have boers but we decided (with the economy!) to scale back, so stuck with those two.
Anyway, wondering, do you or anyone have any does they are wanting to let go of? I milk, so I want sweet does
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you know how sweet those nubers are. lol I was out yesterday and my girls were just leaning into me....they are getting rounder. Love the bellies.
 
IVY, a friend of mine suggested using the big eyebolts & opening up the eye part to put it on the livestock panel. That sounds like it might work if the bolt isn't too big. I can also see big staples working, so there are 2 options I will look at tomorrow. I did manage to get a piece of the panel cut by myself with some huge bolt cutters by standing on the handle to cut it. Well whatever works, huh. I actually had the piece cut & had it sitting up in front of the door when I had to run my last two hens into the run, yes the Lakenvelders both got left out when I had to run into town because I had to meet someone & couldn't wait for them to play their run around the coop game tonight. So when I came back & was working on the panel I put it up there to look at it & thought well I'll just see what the hens do if they'll go through there or not & they did with no problems. I know they're a little smaller than some of the chickens & the roosters, so we'll see if this plan will work or not. If not, I may have to use the cutters again to cut one square out on the bottom, but I want to make sure the dogs can't squeeze through it. We'll just see what happens with it. If I can get it put up there & the chickens can go through it should work out fine I just have to get it all worked out.

Trish,
I'd love to see a photo of what you did. I've been trying to picture this in my head and ya'll have been talking about and still cant.
 
Candace, your birds are beautiful! Love the EE rooster! And the sumatra! WOW-- those tails are amazing! I love your Royal Palm Tom, too! Is he the only RP you have? I have a RP jenny... no tom. LOL!! I really love the black and white coloring of the Royal Palms... gorgeous! I like them better than about any other coloring.

Trish, ugh, I can imagine your frustration with the dogs eating feed! I would HATE that! It's not exactly cheap! I was just figuring out the other day that I am buying a $13 bag of layer feed for the chickens... I buy a $9 bag of 12% sweet feed (with molasses) for my horses!! (same weight) What a difference! Now, of course, the volume of grain I buy for my horses-- I buy about a ton at a time. But--- the chicken feed is more expensive! Crazy! I'm going to be VERY conscious about how many birds I have and not getting any more than I have now. I'm done. The only plans I have are to breed my silkies... which BTW, eat hardly anything! The birds in my coop are BIG eaters. Anyway, if I had a dog eating my grains, I'd be seeing red. ha! (now here lately, when it was really cold, I switched to the 14% grain for the horses which is about $14 a bag... but I usually buy the sweet feed when they aren't being stressed by weather)

Well last night I once again had to crawl under the coop to drag out Cocoa-- the WCB Polish (that was attacked). If a bird is going to be left out and trying to sleep under the coop, it's always her! She is having a hard time fitting back into the pecking order now that she was out of the coop for those weeks healing. But I've noticed that most everyone leaves her alone. And the funny thing is that she's a bit crazy now! I think her head trauma must have made her insane. Every time a bird thinks about trying to pick on her, she flips out and flaps her wings and bobs her head-- enough that it scares the bigger bird away. I don't think she's doing it on purpose... she seems really timid now. It's like a "knee-jerk" reaction for her. But it's working to keep her safe. No one is messing with her or getting close to her, because she's so unstable! LOL!!! I picked her up and talked to her a couple of times yesterday. When I go into the run, she comes running at me full speed and jumps on my shoes and clings to my legs. I pick her up and she seems fairly happy about that. For Polish being really flighty and flappy.... she's kind of warmed up to me. Her beak is looking a lot better, although it is messed up for sure. Sometime I'll have to have someone hold her so I can get a picture of what her beak looks like now. It's too bad, about it. It doesn't close all the way, and it looks like it's harder for her to eat and drink. But I'm guessing no worse than a bird who's had it's beak trimmed. She feels lighter and skinnier than the others. I hope she'll be okay.
 
Trish, If you want to cut those panels again the easiest way is to use a grinder with a cutting wheel on it. It makes quick work and is much tidier and leaves smoother edges than bolt cutters. I've cut several to make gates and stuff with.
Candace it was great talking to you yesterday. I see you have a blue slate turkey. I have one baby and some more eggs that should arrive from Florida today. My first box of eggs came as egg covered paper mache. It was about Christmas time. I'm getting some midget whites as soon as they start laying, from a MO man. I hatched some native turkeys last summer and I love them. So turkeys are my new adventure.
I love my ducks as well. I have anconas and cayugas. I've been thinking of getting pekins because I have a buyer for all the babies I can produce but don't think I want to mix any more breeds. I just let all of the ducks free range and they do keep the fly population down some.
I have my mandarins and wood ducks as well. But of course they have their own aviary.
I have another busy day ahead. I need to get eggs ready to go to town.
Anyone else missing any thing? I spent another 2 hours looking for that paint yesterday. I'm convinced after leaving Ivy's sideboard it found a new love to run off with.
 
Trish, ugh, I can imagine your frustration with the dogs eating feed! I would HATE that! It's not exactly cheap! I was just figuring out the other day that I am buying a $13 bag of layer feed for the chickens... I buy a $9 bag of 12% sweet feed (with molasses) for my horses!! (same weight) What a difference! Now, of course, the volume of grain I buy for my horses-- I buy about a ton at a time. But--- the chicken feed is more expensive! Crazy! I'm going to be VERY conscious about how many birds I have and not getting any more than I have now. I'm done. The only plans I have are to breed my silkies... which BTW, eat hardly anything! The birds in my coop are BIG eaters. Anyway, if I had a dog eating my grains, I'd be seeing red. ha! (now here lately, when it was really cold, I switched to the 14% grain for the horses which is about $14 a bag... but I usually buy the sweet feed when they aren't being stressed by weather)

On the other hand, dog food is a lot more expensive so if they fill up on chicken feed, it would actually save you money. Just sayin'.....
 
LOL!!! I'll have to trust you that's true, but it's pretty funny!

I have little dogs-- 5lbs and 12 lbs.... they don't eat much, and their food isn't very expensive. ;)

LOL. My late dog, Rex, whom we had to put to sleep last September, LOVED chicken feed. I really never encouraged it and any time I caught him eating it, I would stop him but pound for pound, I eventually realized it wasn't actually costing me anything. At that time (2 years ago), I think layer feed was about $12/50 lbs, or 24c per pound. We fed him a VERY cheap dog food (tried some of the more expensive brands and he had terrible gas so when we found that his gas was less on the cheap food, we stuck with it) that we could sometimes get on sale for $12/50 lbs but more often than not, paid $13-14/50 lbs.

With my current dogs, I feed a better quality feed because one of them was eating her own poop (ewwww) on the same cheap feed our other dog did so well on. I had to go with a feed that is meat based and has no grains in order to get her to lose interest in eating the poop. So it is more like $40 for a 35lb bag, or $1.14/lb. Layer feed is now up to about 28c per pound so would still be MUCH cheaper per pound than the dog feed we are feeding. However obviously, I don't want them eating the chicken feed now because, ahem, layer feed is NOT grain free
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I've been paying about $26 for 50 lbs of dog food. Sometimes even more if I buy one of the premium brands. You can buy a lot more chicken feed for the same money. The dogs eat the chicken feed and the chickens eat the dog feed. Seems a decent trade off to me. I don't mind as long as everyone gets what they need nutritionally.
 

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