So HAWKEYE, did you try feeding that pigeon and giving it some water? I'd certainly rather have a few pigeons around than these awful starlings. My neighbor said he had a 20 gauge and some bird shot I could use on the starlings.I may have to take him up on it. They are making this place a poop farm, not to mention all the feed and water they go through. They even manage to make it through the 1 inch chicken wire.