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sarajoy, i loved your post.. i have just acquired a half pyrenee dog. he just came and stayed.. we tried twice taking him back to his owner and both times he almost beat us home.. he has been here three months now and his original owners know where he is but i guess they dont want him back. they said his name was dale but we renamed him traveler.. right now he is guarding a new baby calf that we are bottle feeding. he loves our chickens also. you are not very far from me now. we live on a farm in severy which is about 25 miles from fredonia... it is truly a small world
 
Danz, I had two investment corporations in Tulsa during that time. That's how my ex became a millionaire. We bought houses, fixed them up and resold them for profit or kept them for rental properties. I also worked for a Century 21 office and negotiated "short-sell" deals between the seller's and their mortgage companies. In the beginning, some people just had to pay fifteen to twenty thousand just to get out of their mortgage. Once the slump had been going on for awhile the mortgage companies became more flexible so instead of adding another foreclosure to their portfolio, they would forgive the fifteen or twenty thousand deficit. I hired and trained new people for the Century 21 office -- I was a busy woman. I remember driving through neighborhoods in Broken Arrow where there were more empty houses than occupied. It was a devastating drop in the oil market.

michelleml, you don't have to withhold eggs with Seven, but Sevin no longer recommends the dust be used with poultry. I don't know why -- just information. Up to you entirely. I use wood ashes -- it's cheap and works great, although if you have white birds they won't be white for long. I'm not opposed to using Sevin. I've used it myself and it works great.

Trish, so glad you found your hen when you did. There are just so many freaky things that happen to chickens, it boggles the mind. Glad you're feeling better.

sarajoy, loved reading about your dogs.

Frizzled pink, just reading the words mille fluer cochin bantams made me smile. I love spots!
 
Yes Michelle it is perfectly safe to eat the eggs using sevin.
Maidenwolf the under growth starts first. It is very likely they can develop a dark tail later. i.e. a salmon faverolle chick is born as a light colored buff chick. Sometimes they may have single dark feather on the base of their wings at one week old. But the males develop more and more color as time goes on and become a dark color almost all over. Yet the under fluff will be a lighter color. This happens with several breeds. In Pheonix in example all the chicks look like chipmonks but depending on sex they develop entirely different colors.
I am out of chick starter, puppy food, and shavings. I am trying to convince DH to go shopping and pick some up for me so I can continue my work around here.
I really need him to clear out a spot in his shop so I can set up a big container for FF but I am sure that won't get done.
The only times it's been cleaned in recent years is when I went out there and weeded through the piles. The new cat is out there now too. She seems perfectly content to lay on an old coat in front of the heater. I've opened the door and she has no interest in coming out. I was hoping she would be a good mouser but she hasn't seemed to show much interest in them. Dang it!
 
Ok pics on the way I am off to snap some now. I am wondering if birds like black tailed buff japanese or any black tailed buff bird, would grow buff tail feathers at first and black later or will it be black from the start?

The black tailed white japanese chicks will be a solid light yellow, no black at first. As their wing feathers grow, there will be smidgens of black in those and then in the tail. Grown, the black is mostly in the tail feathers and the ends of the wing feathers.

The buff will be a bit deeper yellow with just a hint of orange. I assume the black will be like the white, but I have not had the buff japanese, just the white. But that is how cross chicks that turn buff start out. They are so tiny and sweet.

The japanese wings are long and can drag on the ground almost. The wings on the chicks grow fast and soon will be longer than the chick.

Is Ideal going to replace the replacement chicks that did not survive? Did you have them put anything in for them to eat on the way?
 
The black tailed white japanese chicks will be a solid light yellow, no black at first. As their wing feathers grow, there will be smidgens of black in those and then in the tail. Grown, the black is mostly in the tail feathers and the ends of the wing feathers.

The buff will be a bit deeper yellow with just a hint of orange. I assume the black will be like the white, but I have not had the buff japanese, just the white. But that is how cross chicks that turn buff start out. They are so tiny and sweet.

The japanese wings are long and can drag on the ground almost. The wings on the chicks grow fast and soon will be longer than the chick.

Is Ideal going to replace the replacement chicks that did not survive? Did you have them put anything in for them to eat on the way?
Ok great info thank you, and thank you too Danz. I have some buff colored chicks, all of them are starting to grow feathers and the buff ones I am talking about have buff tail and wing feathers coming in. I do have some yellow chicks with feathers growing in that are white with black among it. I have some white chicks, the fluff is white too, with white tail and wing feathers coming in. Here are a couple pics. they are not as good as I would like but this is it

I am guessing mille fleur OEGB???


Self blue?????It has black beak and legs and is a powder blue

This is white with silver blue in its wings and a blue dot on its head

Another mille fleur???

This is the only one like this with its lite chocolate color

same chick

its hard to see the lavender

 
Karen we really had a mess on our hands with the OKC house. We had negotiated a deal with a person in our mortgage company to deed it back. He supposedly had drawn up the papers that we signed and he said not to make payments because they would change the terms. We didn't hear from him for a while and then suddenly the mortgage company was threatening to foreclose on us. We had even hired an attorney to handle our end of the deal. The guy we were dealing with, embezzled the company and disappeared. Even though we had a copy of the agreement the mortgage company had no record whatsoever of it so they wouldn't honor the deal. Our attorney was no help at all.
I had moved back to Kansas so I really had no choice about just keeping my house until things recovered. I got a job up here where there were none there. It was my only option.
Finally we agreed to have the property auctioned off by the mortgage company to save our credit and that is how we lost so much money on it. During that time you could drive down any street and probably 4 out of every 5 houses would have a real estate sign on them. People that still had jobs were trying to buy the higher priced homes while they were going dirt cheap. But of course that would put their home on the market as well.
It had a far reaching effect and went way beyond the oil industry because people lost all their money in the bank. Long lines would form trying to get their money from the FDIC but it wasn't happening. And people who had millions in the bank could only get $100,000 from FDIC when they did get it. It taught me if I ever had that much money to put in the bank to spread it around to different banks so I could recover it.
I had friends who had just built a $200,000 home and they just walked away and let it sit. He was a food vender for a restaurant company but because of all the long reaching effects on the economy his job was in jeopardy as well. Everyone lowered what they paid because they could hire the oil workers for less. Desperate times.
I can see that happening all over the country now to some extent. It's pretty scary. They have unemployment benefits for a lot longer now but that will come to an end because of the huge draw on the deficit.
That is a part of my life I prefer to forget. It was pretty frightening to see it all tumbling down. I've wondered if Wichita isn't experiencing some of the same things now. Emporia would be as well, but since they have a 3 year job going on at the Nuke plant, the real estate in this area has gone back up. Lots of people have moved in for the job and bought property rather than rent. Unfortunately when they leave, the bottom will drop out again.
Maidenwolf I'm really no help on your bantams. It will be really interesting to see what they turn out to be. Enjoying the pictures just the same.
 
maidenwolf, those are some pretty chicks, I can't tell you what they are, but they're nice anyway.

Well those of you that have GPs know what I'm talking about, but I have another thief story to tell. A couple of days ago I came up missing all 4 of my hasp latches still in the packages that I had laid in the south window in the new coop. I looked all over in the normal places & they just weren't there. I couldn't imagine anyone being able to come into my yard with those two big dogs there & take anything & why would they only take those things anyway. Since I've been so sick I hadn't had the chance to look around any more. I finally told my DH about it yesterday & when he got his car back last evening he drove the truck back down by the coop where we've been keeping it. He said walking up he started seeing packages of things along the way & found two of the latches. I went out a little while ago & found the other two, one of which was out of the package, but was all there. Yep, you guessed it, my GPs stole them out of the coop & had them in various spots around the yard. Why they chose to just take those heaven only knows, but I have picked up all the tools & things out of the coop now so they can't get anything else, silly dogs. Oh & they came home with a football a couple of days ago too, who knows where they stole that from.
 
maidenwolf, those are some pretty chicks, I can't tell you what they are, but they're nice anyway.

Well those of you that have GPs know what I'm talking about, but I have another thief story to tell. A couple of days ago I came up missing all 4 of my hasp latches still in the packages that I had laid in the south window in the new coop. I looked all over in the normal places & they just weren't there. I couldn't imagine anyone being able to come into my yard with those two big dogs there & take anything & why would they only take those things anyway. Since I've been so sick I hadn't had the chance to look around any more. I finally told my DH about it yesterday & when he got his car back last evening he drove the truck back down by the coop where we've been keeping it. He said walking up he started seeing packages of things along the way & found two of the latches. I went out a little while ago & found the other two, one of which was out of the package, but was all there. Yep, you guessed it, my GPs stole them out of the coop & had them in various spots around the yard. Why they chose to just take those heaven only knows, but I have picked up all the tools & things out of the coop now so they can't get anything else, silly dogs. Oh & they came home with a football a couple of days ago too, who knows where they stole that from.

LOL! They're like a circus act -- silly dogs.


Thanks guys. It really is a mystery on some of them. I will have to wait and see how they turn out.

There is nothing cuter than baby chicks. Wish I could help but I don't have a clue.



Danz, I know what you mean about that time -- it was a very dark time for me too, just in a different way. I know there just wasn't any choice for lots of people and then looters would come in and strip the houses bare. We had just moved there for a larger real estate market and never saw that sort of thing coming. It was scary to invest in a market where the bottom had just fallen out.
 

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