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When I was a kid we used to eat mulberries off the trees. Most of them had little white worms in them, but if you didn't open the berries you never knew. I am sure I ate lots of worms. We also used to drink from the garden hose which people cringe at now.
Oh LOL, I have a funny story about that. I still eat mulberries straight off the tree but I found out the hard way why animals don't eat ladybugs. One time, unknown to me, the mulberry I was popping into my mouth had a ladybug on it. Instead of the wonderful sweet taste of mulberry, what my tongue encountered was the vilest flavor I have ever tasted. I couldn't spit it out fast enough and there on the ground was a poor ladybug - none the worse for wear except that I had licked all the red coloring off its back so it was a very pale ladybug, that crawled off indignantly. The worst part was that nasty flavor stayed in my mouth for HOURS. No matter what I ate or drank after that, it was still there. Ugh. I'm shuddering now just thinking about that one afternoon of my life
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Oh LOL, I have a funny story about that. I still eat mulberries straight off the tree but I found out the hard way why animals don't eat ladybugs. One time, unknown to me, the mulberry I was popping into my mouth had a ladybug on it. Instead of the wonderful sweet taste of mulberry, what my tongue encountered was the vilest flavor I have ever tasted. I couldn't spit it out fast enough and there on the ground was a poor ladybug - none the worse for wear except that I had licked all the red coloring off its back so it was a very pale ladybug, that crawled off indignantly. The worst part was that nasty flavor stayed in my mouth for HOURS. No matter what I ate or drank after that, it was still there. Ugh. I'm shuddering now just thinking about that one afternoon of my life
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Oh gosh HEChicken I can't imagine having one of those in my mouth, If they taste as bad as they smell, yuck. I saw a report this year about lady beetles is what they called them & dogs were eating them & they got stuck inside their mouth & latched on. I guess they can really make them sick & even cause death if not removed. I had no idea they would do that. They had a picture attached to the article & it showed the whole top of the dog's mouth covered with them. It just gave me the willies.

Yes Danz I still eat Mulberries right off the tree too. I have several trees here & the birds sure do like them. They love it when they drop on the ground. I drank out of the hose when I was growing up too, but after all the hype about it I don't do it any more. I got the point about the leftovers, but when it's been drummed into your head your whole life about refrigerating food it tends to stick.
 
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I had to laugh out loud at your post @HEChicken .
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It was truely funny although I'm sure not for you at the time.
I remember the lady beetles thing, Trish. It actually occurred in Hoisington, Ks. But here's the thing: Although it is said to be common, it's the only documented case in the U.S. Those bugs are the Asian lady bugs that were introduced here in the last couple decades. Not the ones that we grew up with as children. They are more of an orange or even a yellowish color, where as the native type is more of a red color. The Asian ones are the ones that invade your homes in fall as well and also the stinking ones. They were imported as a program to reduce the aphid population. A huge mistake on the parts of the people that did so. They would have been far better off to help propagate the native lady bugs. But it was all for profit and obviously they didn't research things thoroughly before bringing them into the U.S. and letting these nasty things establish themselves here.
I got over eating mulberries after my mother showed me one after another with those little white worms or larvae in them. I actually cut down all the volunteer mulberry trees I find around here cause the wild birds eat them then poop purple every where. They can make some nasty messes.
I'm sure I still get my fair share of bugs though. I think nothing of popping a tomato into my mouth straight out of the garden without even brushing it off. Thinking back on HEChicken's post about food safety I was so picky when my daughters were babies. I mopped floors every day. Kept the babies spotless and made sure they never got a speck of dirt in them or on them. My daughters were both always getting a cold or something and still have lots of issues with health.
When my sons were born a decade or so later I let them be boys,. They played in, got covered in, and ate dirt. My house was a mess then and I took plenty of muddy rocks and what have you out of their mouths when they were outside. They ate cat food and heaven knows what else they got their little hands on. My boys have always been much healthier. My oldest son has always had severe asthma, however he never missed a single day of school from kindergarten to high school graduation due to being sick. The other two were not quite that healthy but they did substantially better than my daughters did health wise.
I of course got my fair share of dirt and germs as a child, but because of a surgery done to save my life as a baby, a large part of my immune system was killed. But my sisters are super healthy even though they are older than I am. Must be something to the HEChicken's theory. It falls in line with traveler's diarrhea. The natives' digestive systems have become accustomed to the constant germs, viruses, or amebas that infect travelers.
I think I'm immune to all things chicken poop after being around them so much. I don't even want to think about how many times I've accidentally ingested some. Even breathing in that dust from the coops surely exposes us to it. Or how often after handling birds I've failed to come in and wash my hands with soap and water before I touched my mouth.
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Oh I'm sure that all of us with chickens & animals are exposed to all kinds of things just taking care of them. I know I don't wear a mask when cleaning out coops so I'm sure I breathe in dust of all kinds of things. My immune system isn't that great at this point, I think there are a lot of factors in that. I played outside as a child all the time but I wasn't what you would have called a Tomboy. I have always loved animals & had as many pets as my parents let me have. That still holds true today. I have had a lot of surgeries myself & I think that does something to your body. I also have arthritis & that is one of the autoimmune diseases, it runs very strongly in my family & even some members of the family that are younger than me have it. I started having problems with it fairly young myself & it has just gotten worse over the years. I also have a lot of allergies & that has contributed to a lot of illness over the years. I had a lot of ear infections & sore throats as a child & they didn't know much about allergies back then. Of course they treated me with antibiotics all the time so that didn't help me a bit. My parents didn't know any better but to follow what the Drs told them & the Drs way overused antibiotics back then too.

I just picked up my new LGD puppy a bit ago. He is half Great Pyrenees & half Anatolian Shepherd & is 10 weeks old. After he gets settled in & isn't so scared I will get some pics of him. He made the trip here from Oklahoma really well, he was as quiet as a mouse the whole way. He met my two GPs when we got here & Lily accepted him right off. Jasmine on the other hand was a bit miffed about him, she'll come around. He is residing in a dog run for now until the others accept that he belongs here & will stay in at night till he's big enough to hold his own. I just made the decision kind of on the fly after having that coyote show up in my yard that maybe I need another LGD here to handle the predator load. My two GPs do a good job but sometimes I think they're a bit overwhelmed with all we have trying to get in here, so hopefully when this little guy gets a bit older they will get some help.
 
I had a pretty worthless day. My plans were to take a trip and do some quick shopping in Topeka, drive a little further and look a horse trailer I want to buy. However I couldn't get hold of the person by phone. She sent me a message later and said she wasn't home but her husband was, but she couldn't reach him. I didn't see that message until I came in for the evening. So maybe I'll make that trip tomorrow. I had some things I wanted to do but didn't want to stop in the middle if she called so I postponed them.
I decided to rig up and pull the old water pump out of the underground space that goes to the well. I found some rigging and got the pump out pretty easy. I had hooked up a temporary wire to it a while back and it didn't work. But after I got it pulled out of the hole it's pretty obvious there's a lot of corrosion etc that could break the connection. So I'll just try to re-wire it and clean it up to see if it will work or not.
Then there is this huge pressure tank. The real value of the equipment in that hole. It's very big and more heavy. I rigged it up a couple of different ways to pull it out with the Bobcat. At this point it is lodged in the opening to the hole. It looks like the walls have moved in some and I need someone with a pry bar to keep the tank straight while I pull it out of the vault thing. In the process I managed to lift the entire concrete lid and the tank with the Bobcat. That made me say a big Whoa. This is about a 6 foot round area of concrete on top of a hole that would let you fall in the well. Not at all safe for sure. I'd rather run a pump and pressure tank above ground in a pump house where I could maintain it without crawling in a hole that almost always is occupied by a black snake or two.
I have two wells and one cistern on this property and haven't been able to use any of them. There are pipes going all directions from this area but I don't know where they all go. There is a hydrant to the south that would be handy. There was one by the well but it has split at some time so I removed it. I think I'd rather have a pump at the other well because it is out by the goose pen. If I could pump water from there that would save dragging a hose 200 feet across the yard to water them.
Last night I water sealed my home made calf feeder. I'm pretty proud of it because I spent exactly $0 on it using stuff I had around here, including take some 2 X 4's from the walls in the trailer I am trying to scrap out, and building the whole thing with one hand because the other one wasn't working at all. The hay feeder is made from an old livestock panel I cut and bent. The grain feeder is a plastic barrel I cut in half. It was an open top so I cut the end off the unused half and screwed it on to make it complete. All the lumber was scraps we had around. The tin on top belonged to my Dad. I brought it home after we sold my parents' home. I have one more thing to do to it. I need a cross bar on each end of the calf feeder so she won't pull all the hay out and waste it. I am going to have to cut the bar then have DH weld it on for me when he has a day off. Since I got the water seal on I decided to share the pictures I took this evening.




 
I remember the lady beetles thing, Trish. It actually occurred in Hoisington, Ks. But here's the thing: Although it is said to be common, it's the only documented case in the U.S. Those bugs are the Asian lady bugs that were introduced here in the last couple decades.
I'm amazed how often you and I read the same info. This is my understanding of the whole thing as well and it never ceases to amaze me how we never seem to learn from our mistakes. Over and over, though the centuries, we have introduced a non-native species in order to fix one problem, only to have it create a whole set of problems of its own. But do we learn? Nope.

I had seen that thing about lady beetles in the dog's mouth but have to believe they were the imported type since our native lady bugs have been around forever and never caused that type of problem. The imported beetles seek a warm place to over-winter and that is why they try to crawl into our houses - something the native lady bugs don't do at all. I've heard reports where people think they are doing damage to walls by burrowing in but what I read says that isn't true. They don't burrow - they just look for a place to hibernate and in the spring they'll wake up and look for a way back outside. My guess is, it was imported beetles looking for a place to hibernate, who for whatever reason found their way into the mouth of that poor dog. I can't really imagine HOW it happened as you wouldn't think he'd lay still to allow that number to crawl around in there.

Oh and @chicken danz , I sometimes forget to respond to something at the time but later realized I didn't comment on your leaving the catsup out of the fridge. That is something that was never refrigerated where I grew up either. I was astonished when I first came here, to find it is kept in the fridge here. Now, I must admit, it does say on the bottle "Refrigerate After Opening" but geez, we never refrigerated back home and it never went bad. I confess I actually do refrigerate it now due to family pressure but your post reminded me that wasn't always the case.

On the Mulberry trees, I've taken the opposite tack and encourage their growth. I love them for how fast growing they are which provides shade for the animals quickly. In spring they drop their berries and feed the birds, and when the goats and sheep have access, Mulberry leaves are one of their favorite things to eat. So I find a lot of advantages to them. When we moved here we had no Mulberry trees, but now have two quite good-sized trees - both in the chicken yard. One produces lovely purple berries (I don't mind the purple poop from the chickens during that season) but the other would produce lots of berries that never seemed to ripen. Finally I googled it and learned that there are two varieties of Mulberry: the traditional purple berry and a rarer Chinese variety that produces white berries. Sure enough, I picked some of the "unripe" berries and they are deliciously ripe - just white. I went a whole season without eating a single berry from that tree as I didn't realize they had ripened! I am not so foolish now and eat my fill of them whenever I go out to feed the chickens. They are a little harder to pick because they don't change color and it can be harder to see which ones are ripe but I've found that at peak ripeness the berries look a lot rounder and fuller and when I touch them they drop off. Since the trees are both much taller than I can reach, I will also shake them any time I'm down there and it rains down ripe berries for the birds to eat. I like that they are getting to eat some fresh, organic fruit with which to make eggs for us
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I just picked up my new LGD puppy a bit ago. He is half Great Pyrenees & half Anatolian Shepherd & is 10 weeks old. After he gets settled in & isn't so scared I will get some pics of him. He made the trip here from Oklahoma really well, he was as quiet as a mouse the whole way. He met my two GPs when we got here & Lily accepted him right off. Jasmine on the other hand was a bit miffed about him, she'll come around. He is residing in a dog run for now until the others accept that he belongs here & will stay in at night till he's big enough to hold his own. I just made the decision kind of on the fly after having that coyote show up in my yard that maybe I need another LGD here to handle the predator load. My two GPs do a good job but sometimes I think they're a bit overwhelmed with all we have trying to get in here, so hopefully when this little guy gets a bit older they will get some help.
Congratulations again on your puppy - I hope he is settling in and had a good first night at your place.

@chicken danz your calf feeder came out really well - congratulations on doing all that - and one-handed too!!!
 
Thanks on the puppy, he had a noisy first night, I think he yelled about all night. I'm glad my neighbors have a barrier with that hill to absorb some of the sound. They probably have heard him though. He will get taken out in a bit & walked around the property so he can see where home is. We'll see how the collar & leash thing go, I think he needs to be on them at first so I can control where he goes. The lady I got him from had the puppies in the barn & field with the goats, so they are used to that type of animals. She had free range chickens but they weren't where the dogs were so they saw them but weren't with them, so we'll see how he reacts to them. He didn't seem alarmed at my silly guineas yelling when he came, I know they had those there too so he must be used to that. They were yelling intruder intruder when I put him in his pen, lol.

Congrats on that feeder Danz, you did an awesome job! I wish I could build things like you do.
 
Ok need help here SPCA contacted me about a rooster with a crazy hair that they got in. I assumed after seeing it that it was a roo cause it has fully developed spurs and long tail feathers the shelter named it David Bowie well it had a case of upper resp problems and worms so today was the first day it was allowed out and about in the flock in of course a separate pen. But here is where it gets dicing haven't heard it crow once and my roosters are doing the scratch dance around the cage and its getting all jumping so I have no idea what I have other then a Polish Tophat so please take a look at these pics and give me your best guess. Are we right is this a rooster or Surprise a hen? Thanks
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@Dani4Hedgies he's a rooster, he has saddle feathers & it looks like his tail hasn't all come in yet but you can see where he's going to have longer tail feathers. He's a Silver Laced Polish.

I took the puppy, Zander is his name, around the property this afternoon on a leash & he actually did pretty good for his first time. I found out he is terrified of the sheep, he has not seen sheep before & he wanted to run the other way when we went by their pen. They were all over at the gate checking him out & he wasn't liking that a bit. He didn't react to the goats since he is used to goats. He was much happier after I took him for his walk & was quiet the rest of the afternoon & evening till I came in. He is learning to howl now, oh boy. My two GPs still are unsure about him so he will stay in the dog run till they accept him as belonging here. When I took him out on the leash Lily came over but was growling & Jasmine just ran off up the hill away from him. I guess it will take some time for them to accept him as part of the pack. He will have to stay in the dog run at night anyway till he is big enough to fight off a coyote.
 

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