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So once again I haven't gotten notifications of posts for a while. Sorry for lack of response.
@CayugaJana I can't tell you exactly when the ducks get start getting white spots but I'm going to guess at about 3 years. Brings up my activity for yesterday. Years ago I made a laying coop for the ducks out of 55 gallon barrels laid on their side. I had a wood frame I built around them to hold them secure and keep the bedding in. And I added a metal roof to keep the weather out. But with age it was getting harder and harder for me to gather the eggs they laid. Of course they made their nest in the very back of the barrel. So finally yesterday I took it apart, removed the barrels and cut them down to about 24 inches , then rebuilt the frame around them. Of course every thing had to be moved multiple times and with 3 barrels, a roof and a heavy wood frame that was a lot of work. I was glad to see eggs in the barrels this morning. I guess I didn't disturb the girls too much.
My back however is killing me today and it's been a chore just moving. I did go out and move my backup roosters into a cage. Then I pulled out the three of the same breed from the breeding pens. I mixed up a bucket of dip to assure no one had any bugs on them. I dipped the ones coming out of the breeding pen and put them in the rooster pen. Then dipped the other three and put them in the breeding pens. Quite a chore. Two of those pens weren't producing fertile eggs and the third was throwing too many light colored chicks, so I switched him out as well.
Then I went to the main brooder house and pulled out about 16 of the birds in there that were getting older. I moved them to an outside pen and rigged up a pecko matic feeder and a waterer with heat, plus a couple of lights to give them a little warmth since they were used to being warm. I hope it's enough it doesn't stress them. At least they located the feeder and were using it. They hadn't ventured out in the pen far enough to find the waterer yet but they will if they get thirsty enough.
I was helping DH who was trying to move a trailer but I found out quickly the trailer weighed over a ton because the Bobcat tipped forward. So we came up with a plan to move it with the farm truck and jacks. He's still working on it. I had to come in and rest my back cause it was hurting too much to do much more.
Good to see you back, @sharol . Hope you got that boys beak clipped.
I'm with all of you on winter. I don't ever remember one as awful as this. With a few warmer days then down to sub zero for days then up, then down, etc. It has effected the health of my birds as well as my own. I just can't see to get warm enough in the cold and when I put on layers and layers it wears me out to move around. I honestly have seriously thought of selling all the birds except some layers ... but that won't happen. I need them as much as they need me.
 
So once again I haven't gotten notifications of posts for a while. Sorry for lack of response.
@CayugaJana I can't tell you exactly when the ducks get start getting white spots but I'm going to guess at about 3 years. Brings up my activity for yesterday. Years ago I made a laying coop for the ducks out of 55 gallon barrels laid on their side. I had a wood frame I built around them to hold them secure and keep the bedding in. And I added a metal roof to keep the weather out. But with age it was getting harder and harder for me to gather the eggs they laid. Of course they made their nest in the very back of the barrel. So finally yesterday I took it apart, removed the barrels and cut them down to about 24 inches , then rebuilt the frame around them. Of course every thing had to be moved multiple times and with 3 barrels, a roof and a heavy wood frame that was a lot of work. I was glad to see eggs in the barrels this morning. I guess I didn't disturb the girls too much.
My back however is killing me today and it's been a chore just moving. I did go out and move my backup roosters into a cage. Then I pulled out the three of the same breed from the breeding pens. I mixed up a bucket of dip to assure no one had any bugs on them. I dipped the ones coming out of the breeding pen and put them in the rooster pen. Then dipped the other three and put them in the breeding pens. Quite a chore. Two of those pens weren't producing fertile eggs and the third was throwing too many light colored chicks, so I switched him out as well.
Then I went to the main brooder house and pulled out about 16 of the birds in there that were getting older. I moved them to an outside pen and rigged up a pecko matic feeder and a waterer with heat, plus a couple of lights to give them a little warmth since they were used to being warm. I hope it's enough it doesn't stress them. At least they located the feeder and were using it. They hadn't ventured out in the pen far enough to find the waterer yet but they will if they get thirsty enough.
I was helping DH who was trying to move a trailer but I found out quickly the trailer weighed over a ton because the Bobcat tipped forward. So we came up with a plan to move it with the farm truck and jacks. He's still working on it. I had to come in and rest my back cause it was hurting too much to do much more.
Good to see you back, @sharol . Hope you got that boys beak clipped.
I'm with all of you on winter. I don't ever remember one as awful as this. With a few warmer days then down to sub zero for days then up, then down, etc. It has effected the health of my birds as well as my own. I just can't see to get warm enough in the cold and when I put on layers and layers it wears me out to move around. I honestly have seriously thought of selling all the birds except some layers ... but that won't happen. I need them as much as they need me.
I don’t blame you for being sore that’s a lot of work!

I might have to get a few from you. Ours already have spots and the boys were wanting to show at 4H.
 
@CayugaJana , just to clarify are the spots they are getting on their neck? If so, some cayuga have some white feathers on their neck although that isn't really preferred. The aging and getting the spots usually starts on the back of the head for the ducks and on the back for the drakes. The reason it starts on the back of the head for ducks is because that is the down that is pulled out all the time. The drakes don't develop the white with age.
Here is a description and standard for the ducks for showing. Looks like the white on the neck would be a DQ for showing even though it is included in the livestock cons ervatories description of the breed as occurriing in some of the offspring.
Cayuga Ducks

STANDARDS:*
Appearance: Bill, slate/black Legs, orange/black
Plumage, black with beetle green gloss. A broad deep long bodied duck. lumage in both sexes is a deep green black with a pronounced sheen. Bill is black legs and webs as dark as possible black for preference.
Needs: Do require water for swimming to stay health, also need it changing regularly as the oil that produces the sheen and gloss will scum the water

Names . .Canard de Cayuga.
Country Of Origin;......... USA
Carriage; A broad deep long bodied duck
Purpose;..........Meat Production: EggProduction:....Seasonal layer,
Egg Colour .......................black outer ..white shell under sooty pigment large
Egg Numbers............80 /100 . . Seasonal layer,
Breed Defects. . . . .Orange legs; white in male feathers
Broodiness:... . acceptable often a private mother hiding the eggs well. . Incubation: 28 days Maturity:
Breed Hints.... Kept as trio or pair .. will go broody and hatch
Weights; 6 to 9 pounds / drake 3,0 - 3,5 kg duck 2,7 - 3,1 kg
Breed Tip****Females have white feathering as they age .. starting with a few white flecks until by 6yrs the female is often white.NEVER any white on the male.
Flying . females occasionally fly when young a good back garden all rounder;
Genetic profile;-Gene : Extended black/ symbol E/ Dominant.Causes solid black pigment to be laid down in all areas except those influenced by genes for white spotting. Typical of the Black Orpington(USA) Black Cayuga and Black East Indian. Evidence exists suggesting that extended black influences eggshell colour giving it a grey tint when crossed or 'improved' this is lost first
 
Hola kansas friends. I haven't been in here in YRS so I'm not sure how many original peeps are im here. Hi Verna!
Im right on the mo/ks border here. Nice to meet new peoples.
Amber? Glad to see you back. Trish is still here and occassionally a few of the others but the forum has been kind of slow for a while.
 
We have had get togethers in the past & just made it kind of a pot luck type of thing. It has been quite some time since anyone had one. We are really kind of spread out & a lot of the people who came before don't post here any more. A few have moved to other states & some don't have chickens any more. Danz & I are about the only ones who still post here. We keep in touch with the others on FB, but not here.
 

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