I've had really good luck shipping chicks, turkey, and goslings this year. Much better than before. I guess I've finally gotten the hang of it. The clue is to always use a heat pack and to add a whole bunch of food. It cost a lot more but it's worth it. I spend an insane amount on shipping supplies. Just spent another $70 for a few more boxes to make it through the goose season, another $80 for more heat packs, and another $30 for mor grogel. And I had stocked up on all of those earlier this year.