Consolidated Kansas

[Ivywoods]

I looked up the MSDS for clorox bleach. There are two ingredients. Sodium hypochlorite 5-10% and sodium hydroxide less than 1%. Does that mean the other 89-94% is water?

I'm assuming the chlorine comes from the sodium hypochlorite, but what the heck is sodium hydroxide? I am not a complete dummy (I suppose that would be debateable) but I am no chemist, either.

 

[Ivywoods]

Okay, I looked it up. It is lye. ( knew I should know that. Old brain just couldn't come up with it.)

Yes, lye is used in many or most of our cleaning products, but it is ALSO used (in smaller portions, of course) in makeup, face cream and believe it or not... eye drops.)

I think concentration is probably the most important thing. Although it didn't say much about injestion, other than caustic at the level of most cleaning agents, it did say it is NOT on any list as far as a carcinogen.

Eye drops, face cream and many cosmetics are absorbed by the body to a degree. I would assume then, that it would not be harmful.

The only problem I can see with using bleach is the inability to accurately control the concentration of these two chemicals that would be injested by your birds.

BTW-I have always cleaned my waterers with clorox. It seems to do the best job of anything that I have tried, and I certainly haven't tried them all. I do, however, rinse my waterers well before giving them back to the birds.

Any chemists out there? If I put 5 drops of clorox in a 3 gallon waterer, how much chlorine and lye would I be giving my birds.... in PPM?

 

[mikeksfarmer]

I think were at needles and hey stack here.

Chlorine is a cell killer (life killer) given low concentrations in water sooner or later most bacterium and virus will come in contact with it and be killed. Give the virulence of some bacteria and virus' it’s a fair trade for the few cells it’s going to kill in your body. The organisms you are talking about killing are multi cellular. The concentrations injected into your drinking water are measured in molar concentrations. In no way is any Chlorine you buy intended for any animal to ingest. My guess is there is no molar description on your bottle of bleach. I have a degree in Biology and Chemistry; if this treatment did work, wouldn’t you know more about it by now? Millions of dollars are being spent on medical research to correct for multi cellular organisms in your live stock. Today technology is so much better than 10 years ago; you can treat for the average parasite and not affect egg production; even if they don’t recommend you eat the eggs for 2 weeks. I will clean with Chlorine but I will never give my birds something I wouldn’t eat myself if I had to. So if you must mix up some and drink it!

I do not intend to offend here I am just saying what I think!

 

[Ivywoods]

I'm certainly no chemist. Heck, molar to me means a tooth in the back of your mouth.

 

[Ivywoods]

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Okay... I'm going to have to try this. I drink well water. Fortunately we are blessed with well water that tests very clean as far as an kind of contamination, and it's not very hard water either. It is great tasting water.

When I go somewhere and have to drink city water, it is hard to choke down because of the chlorine in it. I can smell it and I can taste it. I'm going to have to mix up 3 gallons of my well water, put in a few drops of clorox (the regular unscented kind) and see if I can smell or taste it. I don't think I will mix it in my chicken waterers or bucket. The thought of that kind of turns me off.

If I crap a batch of worms I'll let you guys know.

 

[Katy]

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Okay... I'm going to have to try this. I drink well water. Fortunately we are blessed with well water that tests very clean as far as an kind of contamination, and it's not very hard water either. It is great tasting water.

When I go somewhere and have to drink city water, it is hard to choke down because of the chlorine in it. I can smell it and I can taste it. I'm going to have to mix up 3 gallons of my well water, put in a few drops of clorox (the regular unscented kind) and see if I can smell or taste it. I don't think I will mix it in my chicken waterers or bucket. The thought of that kind of turns me off.

If I crap a batch of worms I'll let you guys know .

 

[ChooksChick]

I don't need to know if any of you is crapping worms.

That said, there are instructions on Oxine for mixing in water for ingestion by flocks. It is in the same family as chlorine, but requires citric acid as an activator to become chlorine...it's formed with instructions and indicators for different types of use. I do use it in drinking water for my flocks as instructed on label, and it appears to do the job very well. I also use it to clean and mist areas, and have used it in activated form for hyper-cleaning in the spring...

I'm going to go for the chemicals labeled for ingestion over the ones labeled for polyester...

 

[OzawkieBantams]

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Well once again this subject is falling into the same line a the bird sexer. For those who are not familiar with this. The bird sexer is a washer or a nut tied on to a string held over the back of said bird ,and if the washer or nut swings in a circle its one sex if the washer or nut sways front to back its the other. I guess I might have fell for this trick hell I don't know , again it caught my attention and thought we as a family here would tongue wrestle over it

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[Fat Daddy]

ingredients in bleach...
Water
sodium hypochlorite ( chlorine)
sodium chloride
sodium carbonate
sodium hydride
sodium polyacrylate

This is the unscented Clorox brand... I test chlorine residual everyday, 365 days a year. If I can smell chlorine, it test pretty high, as in 2ppm. If the local swimming pool is 4 ppm or above, say after it is shocked the night before, I will not allow it to open till it drops below 4ppm. This is based on the advise of the chlorine suppler. Bill

 

[Ivywoods]

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Why doesn't it list all that on the MSDS? What I read for regular unscented clorox was the two ingredients I listed. Is it because the other ingredients are not considered caustic, reactive or whatever?