Consolidated Kansas

[chicken danz]

I live in the country so I can have all the animals I want. But, I think it is high time these towns get smart. The little nothing town I live close to has an ordinance against poultry. Stupid! They fine $300 if you have any in town, but yet the dogs can run the streets without anyone noticing. In this day and age I think everyone should be able to become more self sufficient if they choose without worrying about violating some local ordinance.
Yes I can see having a limit on how many birds you can have and not having roosters. (Although, I personally love the sounds my roosters make and I have hens that are a lot more noisy.)
And I can understand the self appointed, godly, rich communities that don't want any unsightly structures that don't cost a fortune in their housing district.
But in reality, with the economy and for the sake of people making use of everything, I think it is high time these cities and towns get their eyes opened and realize it's time to get back to nature. A few chickens that are kept in clean surroundings are a pleasure, not an eye sore or a source of flies.
What can we do to start a movement to get all of Kansas to allow poultry in the city limits? Anyone have any ideas?

 

[callducklover20]

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All I can say is both KCK and KCMO have lots of faults but at least they see the need to let people enjoy some chickens in their yards. I know Ive gotten several new people hooked into this, Im always happy to help any of them. If 2 of the biggest cities in the metro can do it, and with all the suburbs around them following to allow it-I dont see why any of the towns around wouldnt. The only city I have ever had trouble in is when I lived in Spring Hill, I thought when I moved there I was moving to the country-they even tried to enforce a rule about how many feet of gravel I could have in my driveway lol. So then I bought my 10 acres out off 68hwy and problem was solved

 

[chicken danz]

I used to live in a town where you needed a permit to go to the bathroom....or at least it seemed. Top reason for getting an acreage!
Zoning laws are one thing but keeping people from taking care of their own basic needs almost seems unconstitutional. If I lived in town I would much rather have a neighbor with a half dozen hens than one who let some mutt dog breed openly and end up with a bunch of unwanted pups.
Nothing against dogs. I just let my Great Pyrenees breed and had a litter of 10 puppies. But the difference is those dogs work and it is the only litter she will have. Both of my dogs are getting fixed.
But surely there is something we can do as a whole to allow people to produce their own eggs in town.

 

[ByN8ureHomstead]

I think times are changing. I feel we are going to see more people trying to grow gardens and raise chickens and rabbits so they can take care of themselves.

 

[Ivywoods]

Since these ordinances are made on a city by city basis, generally what it takes is several residents that are willing to petition and do the homework and footwork that it takes to get it passed. There are a lot of larger cities that allow chickens, but some of the smaller ones do not simply because no one has worked to get it through. Depending on your city council sometimes it goes smoothly, and sometimes not.

If enough people show interest and can demonstrate the benefits, propose the controls that have to be in place then it can be done.

Any urban setting requires controls, simply to keep people from doing things that would not be acceptable to those who have to live with it as well.

I certainly understand why a lot of people do not want roosters around. I work till 3:00 in the morning, and even though my roosters don't bother me, I can see where they might bother others. Also, in an urban setting, numbers have to be limited, mainly due to space. Housing has to be resonable, and not detract from the neighboring property. As much as people don't like to think about it, one property value affects the next property value, and for some, that's all they've got.

All that being said... I sure like living in the country where my nearest neighbor is over a half mile away and the next one is a mile and a half, and they certainly understand farm animls.

 

[Ivywoods]

Oh, I'm TRYING to be more self sufficient. We produce our own meat, eggs and milk. I've got a garden and am working on a home orchard........but DANG! This weather is wearing me down. I just finished watering the young trees in the front yard. Everything is looking a little stressed due to the heat.

I'm ready for a break from this weather!

 

[ByN8ureHomstead]

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Are you on SufficientSelf.com.

We would like to be self sufficient also.

 

[Ivywoods]

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Are you on SufficientSelf.com.

We would like to be self sufficient also.

Actually, no. I have never heard of it. I'll have to check it out.

Another thing we do is hunt. I guess we have an advantage there because we live own land that has quite a few deer. We are feeding up a bottle calf for beef. So with all the animals we always have plenty of meat.

It's the veggies I'm behind on . My garden is small, and right now the weeds are getting ahead of me in about half of it. I just put this garden in this year, and it is not on the best soil on the place. Fortunately, we do have good soil on the farm, it's just that when they put the house in we had some areas that we had to level out and some of that is down to the fill dirt. With mulch and chicken poop I hope to get some of that soil into better condition over the next couple years.

 

[redsoxs]

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Are you on SufficientSelf.com.

We would like to be self sufficient also.

Actually, no. I have never heard of it. I'll have to check it out.

Another thing we do is hunt. I guess we have an advantage there because we live own land that has quite a few deer. We are feeding up a bottle calf for beef. So with all the animals we always have plenty of meat.

It's the veggies I'm behind on . My garden is small, and right now the weeds are getting ahead of me in about half of it. I just put this garden in this year, and it is not on the best soil on the place. Fortunately, we do have good soil on the farm, it's just that when they put the house in we had some areas that we had to level out and some of that is down to the fill dirt. With mulch and chicken poop I hope to get some of that soil into better condition over the next couple years.

Sounds like me, Ivywoods. Hunting helps with self-sufficiency. So does fishing. I live a stone's throw from Milford Lake so we always have a fish to eat. Deer, ducks, and wild turkey as well. Your garden sounds like mine - I am behind on the weeds. My soil is slowly getting better with composting and manure. Chickens have made a big difference.

 

[ByN8ureHomstead]

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Are you on SufficientSelf.com.

We would like to be self sufficient also.

Actually, no. I have never heard of it. I'll have to check it out.

Another thing we do is hunt. I guess we have an advantage there because we live own land that has quite a few deer. We are feeding up a bottle calf for beef. So with all the animals we always have plenty of meat.

It's the veggies I'm behind on . My garden is small, and right now the weeds are getting ahead of me in about half of it. I just put this garden in this year, and it is not on the best soil on the place. Fortunately, we do have good soil on the farm, it's just that when they put the house in we had some areas that we had to level out and some of that is down to the fill dirt. With mulch and chicken poop I hope to get some of that soil into better condition over the next couple years.

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