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Lizzy, that is such a hard decision - I know I won't be much help because my advice would be "don't go". I dunno - I used to like to travel but any more the stress isn't worth it for me and I'd rather stay home. With dogs, cats and poultry there are too many arrangements to make and even then I spend the whole time I'm gone worrying about them. Did they tip their water over and run out? Did a predator get in and wreak havoc? Or even, did they fill up the nest box and now every egg they lay gets cracked and broken? At my old house I had a neighbor who didn't mind checking on them for me, collecting eggs, and refilling feed/water. I used to just leave the coop door open so they could come and go as they pleased, since it was a well-fenced backyard and predators weren't too big a concern. Even then, I didn't enjoy traveling for worrying about the things that could still go wrong.

Now that we are here, where I can't feel comfortable leaving them with free access to the coop, that is why I ordered the auto door. It will mean I don't have to get up at the crack of dawn throughout the year to go and let them out, and don't have to worry about forgetting to lock them up at night. In reality, I imagine I will walk down there every night just to check that the door did in fact close but having it take care of itself is one less thing to have to worry about, since the chooks go to bed at a different time of day year round depending on the amount of light. In theory it will mean we can go out of town without worrying about them but I doubt I will ever stop worrying.

The last time I went out of town it was for four days. I can easily leave that amount of food and water, and decided to just let the eggs build up so I didn't have to ask my neighbor to check on them. They did fine - but I really didn't enjoy the trip and spent most of it counting down the time until I could get home. On the flight home, I spent the whole time looking out the window kind of chanting under my breath "I'm going ho-ome, I'm going ho-ome". Yeah, yeah, now you have a glimpse of my neuroses
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That was when I realized travel is for other people, not me. My DH does a lot of business travel and keeps asking me to go on a trip with him since his hotel is paid for and he has enough frequent flyer miles that I would travel for free but....I keep putting it off telling him it would be nice but NOW isn't a good time. Sad, isn't it?

Hawkeye, those doggie daycare places are pretty sweet, aren't they? The times I have traveled in the past, that is what we did - put the dogs in doggie daycare. For me the cost was worth it for the peace of mind (see above) - the dogs, at least, were something I did NOT need to worry about while I was gone
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Medawinks, the chicken feed is mostly grain based but the actual ingredients vary by manufacturer. Purina uses no animal protein so the protein is soy-based, I believe. Some other brands do use animal protein, but the bulk of the ingredients would still be grain - mostly corn. It is possible there is no wheat in it at all. Strange isn't it, that the most expensive brands of dog food charge so much because they don't have WHEAT, CORN or SOY, but given a choice, the dogs go after a feed that consists predominantly of those ingredients! I say, if it is working for your dog's intestinal tract, why not let him have it? Its cheaper per pound than the expensive dog food, for sure. I had a dog who had terrible gas. I tried every brand of expensive feed I could find but he could still clear a room with his silent stink bombs. Then DH brought home a bag of the cheapest food Dillons sells and after a couple of weeks it occurred to us that the dog hadn't cleared a room since we started him on it. So against, the grain, I continued to feed him the cheap stuff since he was actually doing better on it than on the higher rated feeds. Sometimes you just have to follow your gut (no pun intended).
 
Dogs are like people. Some are blessed with decent systems and some live with a total mess. In order to live comfortably some times we have to go outside the box and do what we know is working. Same goes for dogs. Sometimes the books just don't have all the answers. Sometimes common sense doesn't work. As long as you can see your dog is getting his vital nutrients, does it really matter what he eats? Allergies and lack of being able to digest certain foods can block a system from absorbing certain nutrients. So not only does it cause an upset stomach and gas, but it causes other systems to suffer. I wouldn't be surprised to see your dog act healthier and get a much shinier coat if his stomach problems are cured by eating the chicken feed.
And where is Josie this morning. Her vet husband should be home and could answer all these questions!!!!
 
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Lizzy, that is such a hard decision - I know I won't be much help because my advice would be "don't go". I dunno - I used to like to travel but any more the stress isn't worth it for me and I'd rather stay home. With dogs, cats and poultry there are too many arrangements to make and even then I spend the whole time I'm gone worrying about them. Did they tip their water over and run out? Did a predator get in and wreak havoc? Or even, did they fill up the nest box and now every egg they lay gets cracked and broken? At my old house I had a neighbor who didn't mind checking on them for me, collecting eggs, and refilling feed/water. I used to just leave the coop door open so they could come and go as they pleased, since it was a well-fenced backyard and predators weren't too big a concern. Even then, I didn't enjoy traveling for worrying about the things that could still go wrong.

Now that we are here, where I can't feel comfortable leaving them with free access to the coop, that is why I ordered the auto door. It will mean I don't have to get up at the crack of dawn throughout the year to go and let them out, and don't have to worry about forgetting to lock them up at night. In reality, I imagine I will walk down there every night just to check that the door did in fact close but having it take care of itself is one less thing to have to worry about, since the chooks go to bed at a different time of day year round depending on the amount of light. In theory it will mean we can go out of town without worrying about them but I doubt I will ever stop worrying.

The last time I went out of town it was for four days. I can easily leave that amount of food and water, and decided to just let the eggs build up so I didn't have to ask my neighbor to check on them. They did fine - but I really didn't enjoy the trip and spent most of it counting down the time until I could get home. On the flight home, I spent the whole time looking out the window kind of chanting under my breath "I'm going ho-ome, I'm going ho-ome". Yeah, yeah, now you have a glimpse of my neuroses
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That was when I realized travel is for other people, not me. My DH does a lot of business travel and keeps asking me to go on a trip with him since his hotel is paid for and he has enough frequent flyer miles that I would travel for free but....I keep putting it off telling him it would be nice but NOW isn't a good time. Sad, isn't it?

I have actually thought about not going. BUT, my sister invited me to go on a work trip to Wichita with her (without her kiddos). This would be incredibly rare sister-only time (haven't had that since I don't know when). Plus, I'm (somehow) the LAST person she asked and the only one that hasn't (yet) said no. I feel bad adding to her list of people who can't/won't go. Plus, my sister is going to drop me off at my parents' house, which means that this trip is a chance for me to go visit my horses, who are currently living on my parents' property until fall or until we get a lot more rain out here (having time to get the barn up would be good too). Anyway, this is our monthly trip home, and I NEED my time with my horse (my sanity time). As much as I hate to leave my ducks, my gosling, and my fish, I also hate to think about going another whole month without getting to see my horse. The part that really worries me isn't leaving my ducks and gosling with my friend. What really worries me is that it is harvest time out here, and she won't be around the house nearly as much to check up on them. She said she'd leave them in her chicken house, but it gets quite toasty in there during the day, and I"m worried that my Littles would get too hot during the day and too cold at night. I guess I'll just have to talk to her about it and see what she says.
 
Thanks Danz! I had not heard about the sweet potato trick! I have fed him rice and boiled chicken or hamburger with veggies, bought him every type of dog food for sensitive stomach issues, made him gallons of yogurt etc... He is as big as your big GP and eats like a horse. All to just keep his issues at a minimum of the horrible gas and soft poo- preferable to fighting the yuckier end of it for sure, but he has never felt "good" before. This chick feed thing amazes me! I do believe he is feeling better now too! If he has to be a chicken dog, in his own unique way, so be it :) He is still my big old baby.
 
I am trying this thread only because I don't want to have to try to have people from too far away be possible buyers so hopefully this is okay.
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I live around the Salina area and recently hatched 21 guinea keets. I had no idea that THAT many would hatch and also thought I had a buyer but evidently this person really didn't want any guineas. Is anyone out there interested??
 
I have an odd question... What exactly is in chick crumbles?
The reason I ask is that I have an oversize ( for showing) standard poodle. He is 6 yrs old. All of his life he has had gastro issues. Vets have told me to feed him yogurt, keep him off wheat etc... He is wormed regularly since when he did get a worm from a fox, he almost died. I had to do his IV here at home. It was scary! Now lately, my chick crumbles have been disappearing at an alarming rate and he has not passed noxious gas for a while and his stools look solid- which they generally do not. I saw him scarfing the crumbles this morning. It is adding up to this old dummy! But why would chick crumbles accomplish this when expensive feeds won't?????
DH (veterinarian) says if it is medicated chick starter the amprolium may be controlling coccidia in the dog and that is why his bowels have settled down. It is not ideal in large amounts long term for him and may not be safe. These types of medications for birds can cause neurological problems, anorexia etc. in dogs depending on the volume/dose the dog receives. He could have gotten coccidia or has an ongoing coccida infection that has flare ups. A good veterinarian should be able to find it on a fecal float. It might be best to see if your vet could send out a stool sample to a lab because they are highly trained and may be better at finding certain types of parasite problems. It will cost more money but it is better to spend money to find out what is the matter than try to take short cuts and end up spending more in the long run trying to "fix" a problem when you don't know what it truly is.

You might consider trying Prostora made by Iams or Forti flora by Purina have both been used extensively with good success rates in dogs. The boarding kennel I worked for used prostora in dogs coming in to board that had nervous GI systems and would get diarrhea upon arriving at the kennel with great results. The medicated chicken feed may just be changing the gut motility in your dog. Best of luck!!
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cackler, we have a KS Poultry Swap on FaceBook, here is the link for it: https://www.facebook.com/groups/275183675880038/. Just go there & ask to join & one of us will approve you. Be sure to put your location in your ad if you put one on & then people know how far they would have to travel to buy your birds. We have lots of buying & selling going on on a daily basis there, it's a good avenue for people to find what they want & sell things.

Well I'm really not feeling much better today, my throat is killing me & my right ear is hurting, so I'm just kind of shot. I went out to do my chores awhile ago & just had to drag myself around & sweat was pouring off me by the time I got in. My DH is going to have to take our granddaughter to buy her a new bike by himself & buy the lumber for just the floor of the coop. I made him a list before he left so he wouldn't get there & not know what he came for. I hate it that I couldn't go, but I'm just out of steam & feeling pretty awful, so as soon as I finish reading on here I'm going back to bed. I guess whatever I planned to do today will have to wait until tomorrow, hopefully I'll feel better then. I don't know what this stuff is, but it's kicking my butt right now.
 
Josie, thanks!!! That does make sense! I have fed him Prostera for the past 6 months though and he has had many many fecal floats... I use Panacur on him every two months because of the worm the fox left with us. The vet was really shocked to find that. It truly almost killed him..... Was really tough on him. We had to treat the entire yard many times and use wire mesh on the fences into the ground to try to keep them out. Maybe in their search for the exotic, they missed something. I have other dogs who always test worm free too. After that scare I panic over them, but my chicks initially had a bout with cociddia.....
I will be spending more money on labs, I foresee!!!

Today is just crazy, odd! I fed the chickens early this morning and always check to see if Bloom has resumed laying or if the others might start- wishful thinking. Later, about noon, I went out to give them some stew prep squash left overs- tops. Bloom was in the nesting box and came out singing! Andy was so excited!!! We picked some more squash, took a photo of the egg and I let him cut the squash up. I took the tops out again and voila!!!! Repeat performance!!! If I hadn't seen it with my own eyes, I would have never believed it! 2 eggs within 30 min!!! Huh??? How does that happen?

I feel pretty dumb today, but all the wacky is at least good stuff :)
 

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