Coop layout and maintenance

samwantschickens

In the Brooder
Jan 31, 2021
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Vancouver (Portland)
Hello! I am new to chickens and I got these 8 chicks February 5th, so they are somewhere over 5 weeks old. I recently moved them outside and have tons of questions and could use some help! We live in Vancouver, WA (Portland, OR) for geographic purposes... also have a toddler who’s almost 2 and a dog I have a mixed flock; one silkie, cuckoo maran, buff Orpington, buff Brahma, black SL, Plymouth barred rock, RIR, and a blue australorp. A friend might also take 2-3, so I’ll also hav me questions about which ones to pick and flock management when birds leave (if anything).

Regarding the coop- I put the box in there with pine shavings to offer protection from wind and chilly days and they seem to like huddling in there together. I also just built three PVC feeders. and need to figure out a good water solution. I also added shavings to the nest boxes to help insulate the coop and have been locking them inside there at night, with food and water, and a chicken heating pad. I don’t think they all can get in by themselves, and pretty confident the silkie can’t get up there. I also ended up getting an indoor/outdoor heat plate that they seem indifferent to, and placed it under the roosts inside the coop.

I’d also like to have them outside of the run during the day, but need to add chicken wire to some places where they could get under the fence and build a little gate/ fence so they don’t have access to the entire yard when I’m not around.

In the pictures there is a light- we don’t actually use this. I didn’t feel it was safe or warm enough and started putting them inside the coop.

questions:
1. When should I add hay? To the ne boxes? Or do I keep pine shavings in there? Since they have a “poop drawer” under the roosts, when they get older/ warmer, do I remove all the shavings? (If I wait for them to get older- how old?)

2. a lot of shavings have gotten into the run from the box and under things, should I clear them out? What do I do with the floor of the run?

3. Should I add a sand box inside or outside the run?
4. Tips on waterers?
5. tips on building a fence or proofing the yard for chickens.
6. Should I build a ramp into the coop for them? At some point will they start going on by themselves? Will the silkie ever be able to get up there?
7. is locking them in the coop at night the right thing to do?
I guess my questions aren’t super clear, but I really just need to know what to do!
 

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Hello! I am new to chickens and I got these 8 chicks February 5th, so they are somewhere over 5 weeks old. I recently moved them outside and have tons of questions and could use some help! We live in Vancouver, WA (Portland, OR) for geographic purposes... also have a toddler who’s almost 2 and a dog I have a mixed flock; one silkie, cuckoo maran, buff Orpington, buff Brahma, black SL, Plymouth barred rock, RIR, and a blue australorp. A friend might also take 2-3, so I’ll also hav me questions about which ones to pick and flock management when birds leave (if anything).

Regarding the coop- I put the box in there with pine shavings to offer protection from wind and chilly days and they seem to like huddling in there together. I also just built three PVC feeders. and need to figure out a good water solution. I also added shavings to the nest boxes to help insulate the coop and have been locking them inside there at night, with food and water, and a chicken heating pad. I don’t think they all can get in by themselves, and pretty confident the silkie can’t get up there. I also ended up getting an indoor/outdoor heat plate that they seem indifferent to, and placed it under the roosts inside the coop.

I’d also like to have them outside of the run during the day, but need to add chicken wire to some places where they could get under the fence and build a little gate/ fence so they don’t have access to the entire yard when I’m not around.

In the pictures there is a light- we don’t actually use this. I didn’t feel it was safe or warm enough and started putting them inside the coop.

questions:
1. When should I add hay? To the ne boxes? Or do I keep pine shavings in there? Since they have a “poop drawer” under the roosts, when they get older/ warmer, do I remove all the shavings? (If I wait for them to get older- how old?)

2. a lot of shavings have gotten into the run from the box and under things, should I clear them out? What do I do with the floor of the run?

3. Should I add a sand box inside or outside the run?
4. Tips on waterers?
5. tips on building a fence or proofing the yard for chickens.
6. Should I build a ramp into the coop for them? At some point will they start going on by themselves? Will the silkie ever be able to get up there?
7. is locking them in the coop at night the right thing to do?
I guess my questions aren’t super clear, but I really just need to know what to do!
That's a super tiny coop for the number of birds you have.
They require 4 sq ft of space per bird (the Silkie could get away with 2 but the Brahma and the Orp will both require a little more space due to their large size). They require 12 additional sq ft in the run per bird. Even if you plan to free range. You live in snow country. They will be spending a lot more time in the coop and run during winter.
 
That's a super tiny coop for the number of birds you have.
They require 4 sq ft of space per bird (the Silkie could get away with 2 but the Brahma and the Orp will both require a little more space due to their large size). They require 12 additional sq ft in the run per bird. Even if you plan to free range. You live in snow country. They will be spending a lot more time in the coop and run during winter.
Thanks for that! Do you think it’s sufficient space for 5-6 birds since we’re giving away 2 or 3 Of them? the guy who built it said it can hold 8 chickens! Here are the dimensions.

Dimensions 9'8" long x 34" deep x 43"tall.
 
Thanks for that! Do you think it’s sufficient space for 5-6 birds since we’re giving away 2 or 3 Of them? the guy who built it said it can hold 8 chickens! Here are the dimensions.

Dimensions 9'8" long x 34" deep x 43"tall.
2-3 birds MAX. The guy that sold it to you obviously doesn't tend chickens. These dimensions are based off of pre-fab coops that ALWAYS over-state the number of birds they can house.
It's not that you can't stuff them in there. You can. But you will have a tough time keeping it clean and you will have behavior issues. Not to mention the lack of ventilation in the main coop. It was not well designed.
I'm really sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
 
I'm so sorry. I have to agree that you've been misled by the people who exaggerate the number of chickens in order to sell coops. :(

The usual guidelines are that each adult, standard-sized hen needs:

4 square feet in the coop,
10 square feet in the run,
1 linear foot of roost,
And 1 square foot of permanent, 24/7/365 ventilation -- the pop door that's closed at night and any windows that are closed in the winter don't count.

Additionally, the base has to have enough depth to hold a decent thickness of bedding, the nests need to be above the bedding, the roosts need to be above the nests, and the ventilation is best placed above the chickens' heads when they are sitting on the roost.

As a matter of personal opinion, I think that no coop intended for long-term use^ should ever be less than 4'x4'x4' -- which is room for 4 hens.

When a coop is too small it becomes difficult to keep clean and you frequently see behavior issues due to overcrowding.

^A brooder, quarantine unit, or broody hutch can be smaller because it's only used for a short time.
 
2-3 birds MAX. The guy that sold it to you obviously doesn't tend chickens. These dimensions are based off of pre-fab coops that ALWAYS over-state the number of birds they can house.
It's not that you can't stuff them in there. You can. But you will have a tough time keeping it clean and you will have behavior issues. Not to mention the lack of ventilation in the main coop. It was not well designed.
I'm really sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
Thanks for letting me know. He did say that he has nearly 30 chickens... so that should’ve been a sign...

Any recommendations to increase ventilation or add space for them?
 

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