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I dont' recall seeing your name in the ICBA lists-- o great Cornishman.

That good cockerel, was a good bird, I cannot lie- and much appreciative for getting and using him. But it seems the more I breed him to my females, and the more I promote and picture those offspring-- the more they receive slander being called counterfit Cornish.
I have no doubt that paying a membership fee to the ICBA will have its benefits, but having my name on the list will not make me a breeder or even an owner of Cornish.

I don't recall ever reading anyone slandering your birds. I've never seen a picture of the offspring, so can not comment on them on them even if wanted to. I think it possible to breed a hatchery Cornish up in quality, especially by using breeding quality Cornish like your one DC bred into them, but it would take longer and cost me more money to get one bred to what I think of as breeder quality than I want to invest. I suppose the term 'breeder quality' has different meanings to different people.

Personally I do not call myself a breeder, though I am breeding what I consider a few pretty good Cornish. To each their own at promotion, but until I can get to a few shows with a number of quality Cornish to compete against and let some qualified judges make a decision as to where my stand, I like simply to breed to suit my own eye and put my bird's pictures up for inspection for people to look at. P.T. Barnam never said "A new sucker is born every minute." [as sometimes falsely credited] but was a big promoter. However, he put on a good enough circus that many of the same people came back and bought tickets the next year or told others about the good show. I'm not much of a promoter, being nearly as likely to point out something I don't like on my own birds as something I like. I figure a quality Cornish needs no promotion other than letting anyone looking for and knowing quality Cornish see it. If I started promoting some of my current batch of hatchery sourced and crossbred Cornish as 'real' Cornish or 'breeder quality' Cornish, I believe I could sell them to newbies in good numbers because some do show a lot of Cornish influence. I also believe that anyone serious about breeding Cornish is going to either be offended that I called them Cornish, or amused that I consider them good quality, and certainly not likely to sell to me or buy from me.
 
The point was, don't call them Cornish if the arey crossed. Plus, this thread is supposed to be for Cornish, not crosses. All this bickering is really beside the point. All Walt was doing was clarifying so someone doesn't get the wrong idea that a Cornish/EE mix is not a true cornish. I'm not sure how anyone can argue that it is, no matter their personal breeding background.

Lay off, kf. You've even gotten Cedarknob to say something not kind, and that's an accomplishment. While your antics can be entertaining, they no longer are in this instance.
 
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West coast people ship, but I doubt they would ship a smart alec anything. I'm not sure why you are trying to start fights, but it is usually the sign of a person that lacks self confidence. there are plenty of serious Cornish breeders and and some of them never show. I have been doing this for 45 years, so I don't think I would be considered a fly by night.


BTW: what are your "passionate species"?

Walt
We have produced several state and national champion Oxford sheep, as well as getting more powerful by the day herd of shorthorns, and red maines. This group of shorthorns produced a heifer in the early 90s that remains as the only 2 time national champion female to date.

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Thanks for letting us see her.

I am curious as to why Jones and Leonard quit breeding LF Cornish, at one time someone "borrowed" the pic of the WLR pullet you have on your site to represent theirs, and I searched the web long enough looking for good Cornish to find the same picture on an old show results listing. LOL
 
Walt,

I will get buffs on point. I already took first in crossroads beating 4 other buffs from California.


I only have one speed...lol

I sponsored the LG buff female in this issue of t he APA SOP. In my opinion the Cornish is one of the hardest breeds to improve...you add buff to that and you really have your work cut out for you. Buff is such a beautiful color on a chicken......looking forward to seeing your progress.

Walt
 
How about we talk Cornish and stop the bickering.




Walt



Nice head! Sure is hard to keep the eye colour though isn't it? I know! Start a PROJECT to work on it. Maybe if you crossed in an Embden. I love that there are no mutts here, just projects. Also some people whose knickers are a bit tight-makes them testy.
 
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Nice head! Sure is hard to keep the eye colour though isn't it? I know! Start a PROJECT to work on it. Maybe if you crossed in an Embden. I love that there are no mutts here, just projects. Also some people whose knickers are a bit tight-makes them testy.

The eye color is so hard that some people want to change it. I think the ABA and APA are in agreement to leave it the way it is in each Standard.

Walt
 
Thanks for letting us see her.

I am curious as to why Jones and Leonard quit breeding LF Cornish, at one time someone "borrowed" the pic of the WLR pullet you have on your site to represent theirs, and I searched the web long enough looking for good Cornish to find the same picture on an old show results listing. LOL

I started the WLR Cornish here and Bob kept them going, but we both had too many birds and someting had to go. The WLR take a lot of breeding to get them to where we wanted them. To do that color justice I don't think you can do anyhting else.....not if you want them right and that is what we try to do. We gave them to someone we thought would keep them up, but they went to pot pretty quick. Gary Agaginian has some good LF Cornish in white and WLR.

Lots of people "borrow" our pics and when I catch them I give them the chance to send us $2000.00 or we go to small claims court here in Santa Rosa, which is pretty inconvenient for most folks....so they take it down. They don't even bother to take the copyright sign off the pictures. They are protected by copyright.
I guess this is a compliment of sorts.

Walt
 

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