You're welcome. I knew from reading of their history that they were a failed attempt of an Englishman at breeding a more muscular gamecock; and that old drawings show an upright, more athletic looking male of pit type; but never realized that the APA had originally classified them as Oriental Games, and that they still had a more upright and lighter body in 1905. By 1915 the APA had them in the English group, and the SOP was calling for a heavier bird. What really surprised me was that in 1905 eye color was "yellow, or approaching pearl"; ten years later the "or" had been dropped and eye color was "yellow, approaching pearl". Now they are supposed to be pearl, and mine have yellow. LOL However I would like to see pearl eyes on them. I still intend to breed to the modern standard of a very heavy muscled meat bird with the hard feathering and head type of oriental games. If I wanted the lighter look I would breed Aseels that were on the thick side. I do understand those that like the more athletic looking orientals and their desire to see the old Indian Game resurrected, but I'm trying to breed large fowl meat birds that belong in the English class. In order to do well at shows, I think my desire for a beautifully shaped table bird might possibly be of some advantage over a desire for a more Oriental Game look.