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I mean, speaking of people who seek and demand justice. Even Justice Scalia left her roses every year on her birthday.
If I may be so bold I'll share the best post I've seen going around about her;

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There's a few posts going around reminding folks that since RBG is Jewish, the proper thing to say about her passing is "May her memory be for blessing," which is true, but I wanted to add a bit of perspective on what that means.

Jewish tradition does not focus on the afterlife. There are a few thoughts on what happens when we go, some of which look a bit like reincarnation, and some of which looks like time to reevaluate our actions and relationships on earth, but for the most part, the whole "Do good things, get good reward from God; do bad things, get bad punishment from God" is just not part of our worldview. (Spoiler alert: this is why I love The Good Place so much- the final season feels very in line with Jewish thoughts on the afterlife.)
When Jews speak of righteousness, it is never with the idea of an eternal reward. We work to be good humans to others and ourselves because justice and peace are their own rewards. We don't know what happens next, but we know what happens here, and that is enough. The pursuit of justice is one of the highest callings of Judaism, and it should not be misinterpreted as vengeance or punishment. The ideas of justice and sustainability are inextricably linked in Judaism. A system that is unjust cannot sustain, and a system that is unsustainable cannot be just.
It is said that a person who passes on Rosh Hashona is a Tzedek, a good and righteous person. When we speak of tzedakah, the word is often translated as "charity" but it is more accurate to say righteousness. Tzedakah can take many forms (including monetary donation) but it's important to note that tzedakah is not a benevolent contribution given to be kind or nice to those who need it, it is to be viewed as a balancing of the scales, an active working towards justice. To use a simple example, one should donate to the local food bank not to gain favor with God, or to be nice to those with less than ourselves, but because it is unjust for anyone to be without food, especially while others have plenty. Correcting injustice, balancing the scales, evaluating the distribution of power and creating equity is tzedakah, the work of righteousness.
Similar to Maslow's (imperfect) hierarchy of needs, Maimonides wrote in the Middle Ages of eight levels of Tzedakah, the highest of which results in self sufficiency, or rather, an act that creates a sustainable form of justice. "Teaching a man to fish" is an extremely reductionist view of this idea, but it's a start- the real meat of it is the idea that charity is good, but eliminating the need for charity is better. (i.e. Tax the billionaires so we can have universal healthcare instead of praising the rich for building hospitals with their names on them.)
The second highest form is where both the giver and the receiver are unknown to each other. This allows both for the dignity of the recipient, and for the giver to be free from personal motivation and reward. In other words, we should help create a more just world for the benefit of people we don't know, without the expectation of praise, gratitude, or reward, in this life or the next.
When we say that Ruth Bader Ginsberg was a Tzedek, we don't just mean she was a nice person. What we're saying is that she was a thoughtful person who worked tirelessly to create a more just world. One that would perpetuate equality and access, one that wasn't reliant on charity, one that was better for people she did not know, without the expectation of praise or fame. THAT is what it means to be a Tzedek, and I can't think of anyone who better embodies the pursuit of justice.
When we say "may her memory be for blessing" the blessing we speak of is not "may we remember her fondly" or "may her memory be a blessing to us" the blessing implied is this: May you be like Ruth. Jewish thought teaches us that when a person dies, it is up to those who bear her memory to keep her goodness alive. We do this my remembering her, we do this by speaking her name, we do this by carrying on her legacy. We do this by continuing to pursue justice, righteousness, sustainability.
So when you hear us say "May her memory be for blessing" don't hear "It's nice to remember her"-- hear "It's up to us to carry on her legacy." When you hear us say, "She was a Tzedek" don't hear "She was a nice person"-- hear "She was a worker of justice."
May her memory be for blessing.
May her memory be for revolution.
May we become a credit to her name.

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Last night we had a big earthquake that woke us up.
I'm a sound sleeper. The last earthquake that woke me up was the Northridge quake when our house got knocked off the foundation. But I woke up last night.

My son in Hollywood who was awake when it hit said it came as a big jolt and then was followed by rolling for a longer stretch. I missed the jolt but I guess that's what woke me. I felt the rolling in my groggy state and concluded it was the dog scratching at the foot of my bed so I went right back to sleep. It was only in the morning that I realized the dog doesn't sleep in my room. She now has to sleep in a kennel because she's old and incontinent.

I heard it was located very near the old Whittier Narrows quake.

Did you have any damage, feather13? Hoping not!

I read that someone said she was one White Walker attack away from filling her CA disasters bingo card.
 

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Following all of your posts from the past few days and just sending love to you all. I've been in similar toxic relationships with family members and while I can't understand exactly what you've gone through, I'm extending empathy and good thoughts to each of you.

Last night we had a big earthquake that woke us up. I spent most of the night gathering together our earthquake supplies, making sure nothing had expired, getting the kids dressed and back to bed, and waiting until 3am to make sure there were no aftershocks. A local seismologist thought the quake was a "foreshock" and that we should be prepared for a fairly large event since there had been a number of smaller clusters in the area recently. This, plus now the wildfires have come much closer to us. 2020 is really testing my sense of humor!
Here's a few visual aides for you to relax about the quake. The "MyRadar app" allows you to see earthquakes and you can adjust for how many days back and what the minimum magnitude to see.... So that the primer is done. Here's the "Legend:
minimum 1.0
Time: last 7 days
Colors equal scale <1.9. = Gray
2.0-2.9= green
3.0-3.9 = orange
4.0-5.x = red"
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I have not read up on the scientific articles at all so I'm not able to offer any more info on the theory of it being a pre-quake tremor. Logic from my years growing up there in Costa Mesa..... Seems that they are expecting something like the stuff that hit New Zealand last month. They had something like 4-5 at 4.5, 5.2, 5.4-.8 all inside 48hrs. Along with over 24 in the 3.0 and above in the same time period.

So if something like a 5-6 is expected.....(shrugs) Maybe you'll get another "Rock-tober 1st" like I had in high school back in the 80's. It was approximately a 6.0. it was an amazing experience for me as it hit as I was getting ready for school.....
 

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I'm a sound sleeper. The last earthquake that woke me up was the Northridge quake when our house got knocked off the foundation. But I woke up last night.

My son in Hollywood who was awake when it hit said it came as a big jolt and then was followed by rolling for a longer stretch. I missed the jolt but I guess that's what woke me. I felt the rolling in my groggy state and concluded it was the dog scratching at the foot of my bed so I went right back to sleep. It was only in the morning that I realized the dog doesn't sleep in my room. She now has to sleep in a kennel because she's old and incontinent.

I heard it was located very near the old Whittier Narrows quake.

Did you have any damage, feather13? Hoping not!

I read that someone said she was one White Walker attack away from filling her CA disasters bingo card.
Oh wow! Northridge must have been terrifying! I follow seismologist Lucy Jones on Twitter who was talking about how close last night's was to Whittier Narrows. I'm not from California, even though I've lived here for nearly 20 years, so every quake I feel is scary. We didn't have any damage, but both of my daughters woke up. Hope nothing was damaged at your house or your son's!

LOL... White Walkers! That's exactly what I thought last night: 2020 is really just missing zombies at this point. And not just the metaphoric ones we have in droves.
 

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Here's a few visual aides for you to relax about the quake. The "MyRadar app" allows you to see earthquakes and you can adjust for how many days back and what the minimum magnitude to see....

So if something like a 5-6 is expected.....(shrugs) Maybe you'll get another "Rock-tober 1st" like I had in high school back in the 80's. It was approximately a 6.0. it was an amazing experience for me as it hit as I was getting ready for school.....
Thank you! I hadn't seen that app before. I can't even imagine what it was like to experience a 6.0 earthquake (although at least was school closed for the day?)
 

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Thank you! I hadn't seen that app before. I can't even imagine what it was like to experience a 6.0 earthquake (although at least was school closed for the day?)
School Closed? NOPE! :gigIt hit ~7:30AM... I was brushing teeth when it hit.... I ran down the hall and out the front door as we lived on a cul-de-sac off Victoria Blvd & I wanted to see what Victoria was looking like...... It was a long quake and I got to see the 5 lane wide Blvd roll like the bottom of a river. Power poles swaying like sbamboo in the wind. It was so awe inspiring.....
 
I have not read up on the scientific articles at all so I'm not able to offer any more info on the theory of it being a pre-quake tremor.
Even the local seismologists say they don't know which is a pre-quake and which is an aftershock until they're all over and they can identify the largest one in retrospect.


Oh wow! Northridge must have been terrifying! I follow seismologist Lucy Jones on Twitter who was talking about how close last night's was to Whittier Narrows. I'm not from California, even though I've lived here for nearly 20 years, so every quake I feel is scary. We didn't have any damage, but both of my daughters woke up. Hope nothing was damaged at your house or your son's!
It wasn't really. My feeling is any one you're around to describe was just an A Ticket (if anyone remembers when Disneyland had ticket books).

In the case of our damage then, we didn't even know we had had it until several months later. All we focused on was that no one broke any bones and getting the debris off the floor.

In the case of the one last night, no one I know had any damage to speak of. Of course, I don't know anyone in the San Gabriel Valley. I was just talking to folks in the San Fernando Valley and Greater Los Angeles. Everyone was fine if a bit shaken.


It was a long quake and I got to see the 5 lane wide Blvd roll like the bottom of a river. Power poles swaying like sbamboo in the wind. It was so awe inspiring.....
Holy moly! Where was that? I've heard of people seeing it before and I've heard of people hearing earthquakes. They say it sounds like a freight train headed at you. My daughter said she heard last night's. I've never heard one.
 

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Even the local seismologists say they don't know which is a pre-quake and which is an aftershock until they're all over and they can identify the largest one in retrospect.




It wasn't really. My feeling is any one you're around to describe was just an A Ticket (if anyone remembers when Disneyland had ticket books).

In the case of our damage then, we didn't even know we had had it until several months later. All we focused on was that no one broke any bones and getting the debris off the floor.

In the case of the one last night, no one I know had any damage to speak of. Of course, I don't know anyone in the San Gabriel Valley. I was just talking to folks in the San Fernando Valley and Greater Los Angeles. Everyone was fine if a bit shaken.




Holy moly! Where was that? I've heard of people seeing it before and I've heard of people hearing earthquakes. They say it sounds like a freight train headed at you. My daughter said she heard last night's. I've never heard one.
"A" ticket rides.... Yeah, I do recall that but, for whatever reason I recall the phrase "E ticket ride" for that level of excitement...
Maybe that was for a different park back then? Perhaps "Knott's Berry Farm"? Or across the continent out in Ohio, at "Cedar Point"? Or maybe a "Six Flags" or "Marriott's Great America Theme Park?"

Anywho.....
Where was this quake?
Here:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987_Whittier_Narrows_earthquake

Where was I?
Here are a couple pics for reference:
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