Coronavirus, Covid 19 Discussion and How It Has Affected Your Daily Life Chat Thread

[Beer can]

@RebeccaRN why is that sad?

Do some research and you will see why. Many many physicians are speaking out against giving these vaccines to children for 1 they say its not at all necessary, 2 it is experimental etc...

Even Wikipedia says;
before 2020 many large pharmaceuticals abandoned the technology because of poor results and serious side effects.
And before Dec 2020 no mRNA drug or vaccine had been licensed for use in humans.
These vaccines do not even have FDA approval. They are emergency use authorization approved only.

I'm personally not against the vaccine but I do think maybe we should wait a bit before giving it to children. At least until it's actually FDA approved for use.

 

[KarynVA]

Feb. 25, 2021 letter from the American Academy of Pediatrics

"On behalf of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), a non-profit professional organization of more than 67,000 primary care pediatricians, pediatric medical subspecialists, and pediatric surgical specialists dedicated to the health, safety, and well-being of all infants, children, adolescents, and young adults, I write to urge the administration to use every measure available to achieve authorization of COVID-19 vaccines in children as soon as can be done safely.

children have suffered throughout the pandemic in ways both seen and unseen,” said Dr. Beers. “We cannot allow children to be an afterthought when they have shared so much burden throughout this pandemic.”

According to data compiled by the AAP and Children’s Hospital Association, more than 3 million children have tested positive for COVID-19 in the United States. Among the children who have acquired COVID-19, 247 have died from the virus, with more than two-thirds of these deaths occurring in Black and Latinx children.

In addition to suffering from the physical effects of the virus, the duration of the pandemic, isolation from friends and family, effects of parental stress and economic hardship, and loss of loved ones are also taking their toll on children’s mental health. Youth suicides and pediatric emergency room visits have been on the rise.

 

[RebeccaRN]

Feb. 25, 2021 letter from the American Academy of Pediatrics

"On behalf of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), a non-profit professional organization of more than 67,000 primary care pediatricians, pediatric medical subspecialists, and pediatric surgical specialists dedicated to the health, safety, and well-being of all infants, children, adolescents, and young adults, I write to urge the administration to use every measure available to achieve authorization of COVID-19 vaccines in children as soon as can be done safely.

children have suffered throughout the pandemic in ways both seen and unseen,” said Dr. Beers. “We cannot allow children to be an afterthought when they have shared so much burden throughout this pandemic.”

According to data compiled by the AAP and Children’s Hospital Association, more than 3 million children have tested positive for COVID-19 in the United States. Among the children who have acquired COVID-19, 247 have died from the virus, with more than two-thirds of these deaths occurring in Black and Latinx children.

In addition to suffering from the physical effects of the virus, the duration of the pandemic, isolation from friends and family, effects of parental stress and economic hardship, and loss of loved ones are also taking their toll on children’s mental health. Youth suicides and pediatric emergency room visits have been on the rise.

Key words are "done safely". Deaths in children are 0.03%. They are not spreaders nor do they get very sick but recover quickly. Yes a small % do get sick but the cost of giving kids an experimental medication that has not been fully tested far out weighs any benefit. That said people will do what they want

 

[KarynVA]

This sounds very safe.

These emergency use authorizations were issued based on data from clinical trials including tens of thousands of people — as comprehensive as the data generally submitted for licensed vaccines. Further, the data supporting their use are extremely strong. mRNA vaccines are more than 90% effective. Not only did the trials not raise safety concerns but now, with tens of millions of doses given in what is probably the most closely observed vaccination effort in the United States, the vaccines’ safety record is very strong. mRNA vaccines do cause higher rates of allergic reactions than routine vaccines, but even those are rare — 2 to 11 per million doses. Other than that, no serious harms have been convincingly linked to the Covid-19 vaccines authorized in the United States.

 

[RebeccaRN]

This sounds very safe.

These emergency use authorizations were issued based on data from clinical trials including tens of thousands of people — as comprehensive as the data generally submitted for licensed vaccines. Further, the data supporting their use are extremely strong. mRNA vaccines are more than 90% effective. Not only did the trials not raise safety concerns but now, with tens of millions of doses given in what is probably the most closely observed vaccination effort in the United States, the vaccines’ safety record is very strong. mRNA vaccines do cause higher rates of allergic reactions than routine vaccines, but even those are rare — 2 to 11 per million doses. Other than that, no serious harms have been convincingly linked to the Covid-19 vaccines authorized in the United States.

Thats odd because everything i have read says they have raised numerous safety concerns but you put whatever you want into uour body cuz its your choice

 

[KarynVA]

The reason these vaccines got to market so quickly was not any shortcuts in the science; rather, it was the urgency of the global pandemic which caused the funds to flow freely (enabling hiring of personnel to add to the research effort and production) and the bureaucracy to get out of the way. That has not been the case in traditional vaccine releases.

 

[RebeccaRN]

The reason these vaccines got to market so quickly was not any shortcuts in the science; rather, it was the urgency of the global pandemic which caused the funds to flow freely (enabling hiring of personnel to add to the research effort and production) and the bureaucracy to get out of the way. That has not been the case in traditional vaccine releases.

Well your obviously gonna believe what you want to believe so feel free to just pass by anything I post

 

[KarynVA]

I think it's interesting that those who choose to not get the vaccine are working so hard to convince others to do the same. Don't you realize that's working against your own self interest? The more people who get vaccinated the sooner the virus dies out and we can all get back to normal.

There's no changing the fact that some choose for their own reasons not to get the vaccine; but why not just quietly do that? Let the rest of us do what has to be done to end this thing and be happy that you got your way and also we all get back to normal, eventually. (Yes, it will take longer if people don't get vaccinated, but some people just won't so that's the way it is.)

Why not just don't get vaccinated and get on with your life? Take your HCQ; ivermectin; vitamins. Or not; people have immune systems so it's all good.

 

[RebeccaRN]

I think it's interesting that those who choose to not get the vaccine are working so hard to convince others to do the same. Don't you realize that's working against your own self interest? The more people who get vaccinated the sooner the virus dies out and we can all get back to normal.

There's no changing the fact that some choose for their own reasons not to get the vaccine; but why not just quietly do that? Let the rest of us do what has to be done to end this thing and be happy that you got your way and also we all get back to normal, eventually. (Yes, it will take longer if people don't get vaccinated, but some people just won't so that's the way it is.)

Why not just don't get vaccinated and get on with your life? Take your HCQ; ivermectin; vitamins. Or not; people have immune systems so it's all good.

I'm only trying to educate because only one side of these vaccines are being put forth . I want everyone to have the opportunity to see all of the information available so they can truly give INFORMED consent. Its their legal right. Naturally acquired immunity is as good if not better than immunity by vaccine.

 

[KarynVA]

Thats odd because everything i have read says they have raised numerous safety concerns but you put whatever you want into uour body cuz its your choice

I'm only trying to educate because only one side of these vaccines are being put forth . I want everyone to have the opportunity to see all of the information available so they can truly give INFORMED consent. Its their legal right.