Coronavirus, Covid 19 Discussion and How It Has Affected Your Daily Life Chat Thread

[Brooks_]

It is not the MEDIA saying stuff, they don't make stuff up. They quote authorities from the CDC and the FDA. Spokespersons from those agencies go on the news outlets and are interviewed by the media, who ask pertinent questions and get answers FROM these authorities.

Saying the media "says" this or that is like, if you read a quote from Dr So-and-so in a book, then you turn around and say, "I can't trust what I read in that book, it's only ink and paper, and you know it could be full of lies because I read a book about a girl named Cinderella once and it turned out it wasn't true. Books lie."

The "media" is journalists reporting the news, REPORTING what is happening. Yeah, there have been people who did not like it when journalists pulled back the curtain on their nefarious dealings, and tried to cover their deeds by crying, "it wasn't me," or "it didn't happen," in spite of all evidence to the contrary, or yell, "Lies, lies, fake news," or, as in the Wizard of Oz, "Don't look behind the curtain," but honest journalists report the TRUTH, no matter who doesn't like it.

It is not the media saying the vaccine loses potency. The media is reporting that DOCTORS and the CDC and the companies that MADE the vaccine and those who are studying the efficacy of the vaccine are saying it is losing its potency. Don't shoot the messenger!

Let's not forget how often the MSM uses un-named sources and that gun shot victims couldn't get treated because of people ODing on Ivermectin. The media does push a narrative.

 

[Brooks_]

The requirement is to be vaccinated against all communicable diseases

Does the covid vax meet the medical or legal definition of "vaccine"? As in, will it prevent one from catching or spreading?

 

[BigBlueHen53]

Let's not forget how often the MSM uses un-named sources and that gun shot victims couldn't get treated because of people ODing on Ivermectin. The media does push a narrative.

To what "media" are you referring? I watch CBS news and I have not heard of "people OD'ing on Ivermectin" causing gunshot victims to go untreated. Please cite your sources. I HAVE heard of a man dying of gallstones, I believe it was, because there was no hospital bed for him in a 4-state area because all the ICU beds were full of unvaccinated people being treated for Covid. This was a few weeks back and I believe it was in Mississippi or Alabama, I don't remember which.

Furthermore, I have NEVER heard CBS news quoting "unnamed sources." Ever.

 

[BigBlueHen53]

Does the covid vax meet the medical or legal definition of "vaccine"? As in, will it prevent one from catching or spreading?

What do you want to call it if it can keep you from dying? Or suffering as badly as you would, or as others do, who do not get the shot? Or being hospitalized or put on a ventilator? Call it what you will, it's just semantics. People should still get it for its therapeutic qualities. Not wanting to call it a "vaccine" is ridiculous hair-splitting

 

[Brooks_]

To what "media" are you referring? I watch CBS news and I have not heard of "people OD'ing on Ivermectin" causing gunshot victims to go untreated. Please cite your sources

Rolling Stone had it first, then more ran with it. It was fake.

I HAVE heard of a man dying of gallstones, I believe it was, because there was no hospital bed for him in a 4-state area because all the ICU beds were full of unvaccinated people being treated for Covid.

I heard a heart patient in Mississippi (4 state search) then found one in-state, but too late.

I have NEVER heard CBS news quoting "unnamed sources."

I was using un-named to include "not authorized to speak". Ever heard or read that?

 

[Brooks_]

What do you want to call it if it can keep you from dying? Or suffering as badly as you would, or as others do, who do not get the shot? Or being hospitalized or put on a ventilator? Call it what you will, it's just semantics. People should still get it for its therapeutic qualities. Not wanting to call it a "vaccine" is ridiculous hair-splitting

Hair splitting is what legal is. I was asking about "The requirement is to be vaccinated against all communicable disease". Presumably this is from a collective bargaining agreement. A contract. Hence, definitions do matter.

 

[BigBlueHen53]

was using un-named to include "not authorized to speak". Ever heard or read that?

Yes, I believe I have, in certain newspapers. It usually goes, "sources at the White House, who spoke to us on condition of anonymity, said ..." But these kinds of quotes usually are in relation to scandal or ongoing investigations of wrongdoing.

Concerning the pandemic, I have not heard any such thing. Reputable news agencies get respected authorities in the medical field such as Dr. Fauci, Dr. David Agus, Dr. Asheesh Jah (spelling?) and other well-known professionals to share their views.

 

[BigBlueHen53]

Rolling Stone had it first, then more ran with it. It was fake.

Just to make sure I understand. You KNEW this story was faked by The Rolling Stone, yet you used it as an example of "how often the media pushes a false narrative"? I'd hardly call The Rolling Stone a credible news source. Shoot me if you will, but in my opinion it's one step up from Mad Magazine. It's Saturday Night Live in print.

 

[Brooks_]

Reputable news agencies get respected authorities in the medical field such as Dr. Fauci, Dr. David Agus, Dr. Asheesh Jah (spelling?) and other well-known professionals to share their views.

But then any doctor/scientist that disagrees with Fauci and the like gets demonized in the media despite their degrees from reputable colleges.

 

[Brooks_]

I'd hardly call The Rolling Stone a credible news source

Neither do I, but some/several national networks ran with it without researching it.